PH dropping after dosing Seachem Aquavitro 8.4

dollarPit

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Hello all, enjoy reading the wealth of information here at RC and looking forward to many years of growing in the hobby.

My tank is new (4 months) and PH was running in the range 7.7-7.9. I have added the first LPS (candy cane) with dHK 7 and Ca at 440. Using the calculators referenced in Randy Holmes-Farley DYI 2-part article I decided to target raising ALk to 11 to be in balance with calcium and I was hoping to raise the PH in the process.

I started dosing daily with Aquavitro 8.4, which I understand is a blend of sodium carbonate and bicarbonate - with the currently low demand I do not expect to have to dose calcium yet as the weekly 10% water change with Reef Crystals has maintained it.


Problem - after adding each dose, I see a slight PH rise (.1) and the next day the PH overall moves to a new morning low from 7.7 down to 7.2. I'm going to pause and try to maintain the dKH at the current levels rather than continuing my way up to 11. Corals don't seem to be showing any signs of stress, but want to understand what is going on chemically and get some advice.

Should I let the dKH drop back to 7 (which is what the water change water tests at), maintain at current until PH comes back (is there a temporary creation of CO2?)...keep going to 11?

Thanks in advance!




Current Parameters:
Mag 1330 (stable)
Ca 440 (stable)
dKH 8.7 (started at 7.0)
PH 7.2 (started 7.7-7.9)

System:
50 US Gal total volume
40 lbs of dry rock
AquaC EV-120 Protien Skimmer - with air lines piped to outside air
GFO/Carbon reactor
Miracle Mud in sump

Livestock:
2 Ocellaris
2 Green Chromis
Pulsing Xenia frag - good extention, growing
Candy Cady frag - good polyp extention
Coral banded shrimp
Long Tentacle Anemone
6 Turbo/Astrea
Coralline growth starting on the powerheads
 
stay tuned...

stay tuned...

Tested PH with an API kit showing 8.4. Going to calibrate the probe...any explanation for probe going wild as alk is raised?
 
The probe might be responding to electrical currents. Mine did. The lights on one of my tanks (PC) would cause the meter to jitter. Other people have reported similar problems.
 
Thank you for the welcome! Probably should have the equipment on a battery backup/line conditioner, we'll see what happens. Looks like I should be calibrating monthly, which I was not.
 
Hi Randy, "wild" = the behavior I described in the first post where the PH reading is steadily dropping.

I believe the probe ended up being fully submerged, it's the digital aquatics probe that comes with RKL. I also observed, that when the probe is completely unplugged, the RKL is giving a PH reading of 6.9. I wonder if the probe is damaged.

Will attempt to calibrate (just ordered solution) and see.
 
Are you remembering a different thread?

The first post says only this:

"Tested PH with an API kit showing 8.4. Going to calibrate the probe...any explanation for probe going wild as alk is raised? "

A pH meter won't give any reasonable reading if the probe is unplugged. Depending on the probe, submerging may not be an issue, although i'd prefer to keep the wire out of the water, and if it is a refillable probe, you risk getting seawater into the refill hole if it is submerged.
 
The behavior I'm seeing is a steady daily drop in PH reading. In my initial post first I was trusting the probe reading and thought I had a water chemistry issue, now I'm confident the problem is the probe itself (I'm assuming livestock would look ugly at the current reading of PH below 7).

Thanks for the tip on refillable probes, I assumed they were all sealed. If salt water entered a reaction with the electrode could explain the steady decline of the reading.
 
Update on my issue - definitely a PH probe issue. Calibrated a new probe and verified with a test kit and all seems well.


Current Parameters:
Mag 1330-1350 (returns to 1350 after weekly water change)
Ca 410 (started at 440)
dKH 8.7 (started at 7.0)
PH 7.9
 
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