Ph. higher, lower

I stopped by Walmart tonight to see if they had any pickling lime, and they didn't have any. Anybody have any suggestion of where else local (to Davis) that I should look. I'd hate to drive out to Roseville for some pickling lime.

Justin - just out of curiosity - why did you switch salt?
 
Minh,

I have never been able to find it locally, I don't know if food preservation isn't popular around here or what, but I always get it from http://mrswages.stores.yahoo.net/w502-h7425.html, the tortilla factory sounds like a good idea though!

As a caution with lime, if you use it long term, don't get complacent and stop testing your ph. I did and after a year of not measuring my ph it was sitting right at 9. Oops! The only reason I didn't kill off my tank (I'm guessing) is because it happened so slowly that the corals actually acclimated to that ph, but growth all but came to a standstill after about 6 months.

Regarding the use of baking soda to buffer, you'll need to bake it in the oven at 350 to chase off the CO2, otherwise it will lower your ph.
 
ProperPh is a buffer.....

I use the properPh and Kent Turbo Ca to do the same thing.....raise a tank into the correct levels and get them within the ball park. Set it and put them in the closet....however, I have used a pinch to raise the alk in the nano to bring it back up because I was busy with school recently and used it and sugar to leghen the water change time.

I use B-ionic.....which I compare oversimplified to those as a dilluted version, as a daily maintence item.....you should probably just rely on regular water changes because you don't have a large tank packed with clams or SPS corals. When you get a bigger tank or pack that one to the top....then we will discuss the different ways of keeping your Alkalinity and Ca levels up.

Once your tank is up and running and around the correct levels for alk and ca to keep your balance........using the Proper or any other buffer or a liquid calcium......the odds of over dosing increase 10fold.......especially on a small tank...

I bought 1 bottle of each over a year ago and havn't used them since.

Yes, there are a million ways to go about getting the proper levels of alk and ca.....but I find this one the most straight foward for myself to use and people that are just starting out to understand, how when and why to do so, and why some people get away with never dosing ever.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8847505#post8847505 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reefugee
I stopped by Walmart tonight to see if they had any pickling lime, and they didn't have any. Anybody have any suggestion of where else local (to Davis) that I should look. I'd hate to drive out to Roseville for some pickling lime.

Justin - just out of curiosity - why did you switch salt?


Any local latinos you can ask where there custom grocers are?

As for the salt Minh, I started to second guess myself and wondered if I was just turning a blind eye to some of the stigma associated with Oceanic in regards to mysterious blooms in nuisant algaes. Then considered SeaChem but didnt want to worry about what batch I got whether it was the "old" or the new borate free stabilizers. Right now it was a matter of convenience that Eric Borneman was doing the study and showed that ReefCrystals was the best overall emulater of natural sea water and sufficient for our needs. Other than that, if someone can point me to a overly high CA supplimented salt with good mag levels that doesnt use borates and doesnt carry a stigma I'd be much obliged ;)

-Justin
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8854438#post8854438 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dots
I have always used ReefCrystals....and am satisfied with what I get from it......

Have you tested the Ca and Mg levels after mixing a few times dot? Are they fairly consistant?

-Justin
 
Yes.....but I don't really get hung up in the initial levels due to the larger tank and the amount that I am changing out. its just as easy for me to add in another half cup to through it off a couple of points.....

While were on the subject:
Water changes I am beginning to believe are a chaotic are potenially dangerous thing that may not be needed at all with dosing these days.......why change the water if you have chaeto or are sugar/vodka dosing to get rid of nitrates, and are dosing 2 part to keep the alk/ca and traces up?......why change the water????? It just upsets the balance....however small, it does one has to admit......messing with the SPS I am all about consistnecy these days.

I digress:
After water changes I readjust my dosing due to any inconsistencies that may occur and tend to test more after a large water change.

However, I could see this becoming an issue with someone using only water changes to maintain their levels.......

This is probably the prime reason I am hesitant to mix my own two part per Randys recipe just to save money.....I don't trust myself to make consitent batches everytime.

The times I have tested it, all levels have been within spec......but aren't the "same" all the time....I think if we demanded that, the cost of salt would double for them to ensure that quality......thats why ReefCrystals I think is more spendy as it is compared to others.....but I like it and used 1 bag of IO the last time, but switched back with the last one......saw little difference because I already dose to compensate for any deviation.....call it piece of mind spending the extra on RC, might as well spulge on the corals a little ehh?......if I find a salt that will grow SPS 10 inches a month....Ill change, but I think what I have is working for now......I would like to reread that salt study again though to see if there have been any more findings......
 
Justin -

CaliforniaDreamer recently switched over to Red Sea Salt. I am currently in the process of switching over to RSS - using a mixture of 50/50 RSS and IO until that is all gone. I didn't pick Reef Crystal because of the pricing. John posted some water parameters of a new mix batch at http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=976693

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8582951#post8582951 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CaliforniaDreamer

SG - 1.025 Measured with Refractometer
Temp 75.4 F Measured with digital thermometer
pH 8.65 Measured with Pin Point meter
Ca 370 Salifert test kit
Alk 8.6 (3.06 Meq) Salifert test kit
Mg 1320 Salifert test kit
PO4 Undetectable using DDeltec test kit
NO3 Undetectable using LaMotte Nitrate Test kit

Here's some more links on the salt study:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=936493
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-09/eb/index.php


Minh

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8853971#post8853971 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Justin74
As for the salt Minh, I started to second guess myself and wondered if I was just turning a blind eye to some of the stigma associated with Oceanic in regards to mysterious blooms in nuisant algaes. Then considered SeaChem but didnt want to worry about what batch I got whether it was the "old" or the new borate free stabilizers. Right now it was a matter of convenience that Eric Borneman was doing the study and showed that ReefCrystals was the best overall emulater of natural sea water and sufficient for our needs. Other than that, if someone can point me to a overly high CA supplimented salt with good mag levels that doesnt use borates and doesnt carry a stigma I'd be much obliged ;)
 
I found the ReefCrystals for 17.99 a 50lb bag, not sure if RSS is cheaper. I just wanted something high to keep up with the demands so I dont see any downtime for forgetting to dose a night or two. Not that I want to just do weekly waterchanges to add my elements, as I dont beleive in weekly waterchanges anymore, but rather monthly and in more significant amounts. Probably just will eventually need to break down and get a kalk reactor to get more Ca in the tank more consistantly and efficiently. The more these sticks are growing the more they are sucking the Ca right up!

-Justin
 
7.8 to 8.2 change in pH in one day is a rather large change. What was the change in Alk? I only ask because the change in pH/Alk could be far more stressful to your corals that anything else. Dots was correct. Whatever you add, add slowly over several days paying close attention to the reaction of your corals and water parms.

To raise your alk you can simply use baking soda (raw is slightly acidic, baked is slighly basic).

Any pics of your tank?

Dots - Have you considered mixing your own two-part solutions? Randy's brew has worked pretty good for me thus far.

Scott
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8854512#post8854512 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dots


This is probably the prime reason I am hesitant to mix my own two part per Randys recipe just to save money.....I don't trust myself to make consitent batches everytime.

Im a little lazy these days trying to finish school
 
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i think the red slime stuff on sand its cyano right guys? not enough water changes maybe? i read somewhere that some crabs will eat it,but not mine lol...
 
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