Ph; you don't need a phd to manage it in your tank

tmz

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pH, no you don't need a phd to manage it.

Managing pH is prepleing to many aquarists . It gets confusing particlarly when the relationship between pH and alkainity comes into the picture.Many try to manage pH wiht buffers a practice encourage by buffer manufacturer's but one tha leaves a tank wit hhigher alkainity and the same ole lowpH it had before the dosing in a short amount of time.

This from a post of mine on another thread addressing an experienced reefer's frustration about pH alk raltionships I hope it provides a frameworkd for those of you who wan't to control pH and maintain table alkainity but just can't get your head around the relationship. It seems like it took me much longer than it should have. Hope this makes it a little easier:

I wish I could go much deeper understanding the REAL relationship of Alk, Mg and Ca!! To me this is the hardest subject because there are so many variables and every one says one thing. I guess the differences between systems are a great deal when comes to really put the math on the paper. (a question from another thread)

Hi,

It's not as arcane as we tend to make it. This is my oversimplified version I hope it provides an understandable skeletal view of what's happening.

PH can be viewed most simply a measure of H+ in the water.
Pure water has a pH of about 7.0 ;lower ph means more acidity/ more H+ and vice versa.

Alkalinity is a measure of the capacity of the basic elements in the water to neutralize the H+/acidity.
Alkalinity is not a thing; it is a measure of many things .

Most of the alkalinity in seawater (96.5%) is bicarbonate/carbonate which is consumed by calcifying organisms( corals, mollusks, coraline algae, etc) . A biotic precipitation will also consume it via precipitation as calcium carbonate, when levels are high and pH is high. So, it needs to be replenished to meet consumption rates .

Magnesium slows down the growth of calcium carbonate crystals( precipitation) essentially stopping their growth,thus allowing more calcium and carbonate to remain in solution than without it.

So , if everything was constant it would be relatively simple. More alk which is basic equals higher pH and vice versa.

But it's not constant. There is a constant flow of mystery guests at the aquairum inn , all named CO2.

The aquarium lives in the air which effects the pH; the life inside it also affects ph and alkalinity.

CO2 equilibrates with the air around the tank; similarly the oceans and other bodies of water equilibrate with the atmosphere and its 400ppm CO2 as measured in May 2013.
CO2 is also produced and consumed by various organisms in the tank at various times
The speed of the equilibration (gas exchange ) depends largely on the surface area which is increased by agitation. it also depend ns on the level of CO2 in the surrounding air.

The CO2 level drives the pH in a real life aquarium ;not the alkalinity.

CO2 adds H+ by taking it from H2O as it hydrolizes in the water .When CO2 is reduced by gas exchange or biological acitivity like photsynthesis, the H+ is also reduced. Conversely, when CO2 in the water increases the H+ increases.

Calcium hydroxide(kalk) is unlike two part dosing or calcium reactor dosing both of which add carbonate for alkalinity.

Calcium hydrioxide(kalk) has no carbonate ; the hydroxide joins CO2 and makes carbonate CO3. It reduces CO2 in making carbonate alkalinity ; as a consequence of the CO2 use , the H+ is reduced raising the pH.

Since calcium hydroxide is dosed continuously, it keeps using CO2 in the water,ideally keeping pace with the flow of CO2 from the air and organisms. However, if too much is dosed at once it will use up too much CO2 and spike the pH and the rate of gas exchange won't provide enough new CO2 to keep up.
Ultimately, the higher levels of carbonate alkalinity calcium and pH in combination will lead to to precipitation of calcium carbonate.

This thread has more:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2252982&highlight=ph+how+to+manage+it

For more still: try the articles on alkalinitity an ph by Randy Farely which are stickied at the top of the Reef Chemistry forum
 
Interesting, thanks for the post. So, what happens to pH (temporarily) when I dose my sodium carbonate solution?

I need to get my Kalk doser back on line now that I've relocated everything in the basement.
 
Quite a good read. Nice summary Tom!

Willistein, when you dose sodium carbonate, some of it stays as carbonate, but most of it it acts as a base and takes protons (H+) from the water to become bicarbonate, and in doing so temporarily increases pH. In time, the CO2 will re-equilibrate and drop the pH back to it's previous level. The reason it's effect on pH is less than limewater is because 1) calcium hydroxide is more basic than sodium carbonate, 2) we dose more kalk than 2-part (by volume)., 3) Kalk takes up 2 protons per molecule rather than carbonates 1 proton per molecule (for the majority of the molecules anyway) and 4) For every calcification event, the bicarbonate must give the protons back up to become carbonate, so it's really only temporary, whereas the hydroxide "keeps" the protons.
 
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Interesting, thanks for the post. So, what happens to pH (temporarily) when I dose my sodium carbonate solution?

I need to get my Kalk doser back on line now that I've relocated everything in the basement.

You are welcome.


Answering your question requires a few more steps in the dance.


Sodium bicarbonate (NaHCo3) won't rasie pH very much it will decrease it a little even in the short term if pH more than 8.2 at the start. Sodium carbonate (NACO3) will raise pH for an hour or so.


This is the carbonate alkalinity equilibrium . At pH 8.2 It looks like this:

(carbonate)20ppm ( bicarbonate)110ppm (carbonic acid)

CO3- <-----> HCO3- < -----> H2CO3

CO3- will neutralize two carbonic acid units;it is 2 units of alkalinity.
HCO3- will nuetralize only one; it is 1 unit of alkalinity as it brings in one H proton .

The relative proportion of CO3- and HCO3- shifts left and right to maintain equilibrium depending on the amount of H+ in the water. This happens instantaneously.

As more CO3- enters the water it shifts to the left. There is less carbonic acid and less bicarbonate and more CO3- and consequently more H+ is neutalized. The pH rises.
Thus, it manages H+ levels and buffers pH.
However, CO2 equilibrates back in adding more carbonic acid pulling it back to the right. Leaving increased alkalinity and the same ole low pH after a short time.
 
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Interesting, so the pH is really only dependent on the CO2 level in the air? Any delta is because of some transient biological effect in the tank (acid being produced) or a transient human effect of adding supplements. So, by adding kalk constantly, we can keep it artificially high, but if we stop, it would come back down to whatever the equilibrium is? I think I get it....thanks again.
 
Interesting, so the pH is really only dependent on the CO2 level in the air? Any delta is because of some transient biological effect in the tank (acid being produced) or a transient human effect of adding supplements. So, by adding kalk constantly, we can keep it artificially high, but if we stop, it would come back down to whatever the equilibrium is? I think I get it....thanks again.

EXACTLY! There is a bit more nuance to it than that, but to go into it would probably just confuse the issue unless you are really interested. BUT, if you've mastered what you just said, then you know all you really need to know about reef pH. CO2 is king!
 
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The other major activity is consumption of carbonate alkainity via calcium carbonate preciptation ,biotically or a biotically. So, we dose it to keep up. If not alk can drop out of an acceptable range and then pH may follow. In most of those scenarios,though some rock or sand or coral skeletal mass will dissolve and add back alkalinity and hold the pH at least to the 7.6 /7.7 dkh range.
 
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