Planted Marine tank places 3rd
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Seahorsewisprer
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Wow! That is cool!
Now, I'm going to get a complex. I thought my tank was having some promise. It will never be that cool!
Now, I'm going to get a complex. I thought my tank was having some promise. It will never be that cool!
Plantbrain
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So that means you will need to plan the next tank in your living room
The plants in the tank are not hard, what I like was the size and the scaping.
Regards,
Tom Barr
The plants in the tank are not hard, what I like was the size and the scaping.
Regards,
Tom Barr
Seahorsewisprer
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Germany is always the leader in new stuff! They invented home aquaria, right? The Berlin method, Hagen, kalkwasser!
Samala
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Yeah? I havent been around long enough in reef aquaria to know. I thought Dutch was for freshwater planted tanks. Now I'm all messed up.
My grandfather would have gotten a kick out of that tank. He had a basement full of fish tanks all his life.. from the mid-late 40's all the way to the late eighties when he passed on. He had a serious green thumb and had all sorts of aquatic plants (local collections only from the Eastern US) growing in what he used to call balanced systems.. you guessed it.. fish nutrients in = plant biomass out. And that was all with incandescents and the sun and loads of water changes.. I think its funny that people are moving back to using natural light now with Solatubes and such. He had just started a few marine tanks in the late 70's, I remember one huge tank when I was very little that was sargeant majors, chromis I think and sargassum.. another 'balanced' tank according to him. And pipefish somewhere in that basement too. He would have really loved to see tanks like the above and the other grass/macro/planted marine tanks that some of us have now. But he was first generation American from German parents, and went back to Germany several times over his life after the war.. I'm more than sure that is where most of his inspiration came from.
>Sarah
My grandfather would have gotten a kick out of that tank. He had a basement full of fish tanks all his life.. from the mid-late 40's all the way to the late eighties when he passed on. He had a serious green thumb and had all sorts of aquatic plants (local collections only from the Eastern US) growing in what he used to call balanced systems.. you guessed it.. fish nutrients in = plant biomass out. And that was all with incandescents and the sun and loads of water changes.. I think its funny that people are moving back to using natural light now with Solatubes and such. He had just started a few marine tanks in the late 70's, I remember one huge tank when I was very little that was sargeant majors, chromis I think and sargassum.. another 'balanced' tank according to him. And pipefish somewhere in that basement too. He would have really loved to see tanks like the above and the other grass/macro/planted marine tanks that some of us have now. But he was first generation American from German parents, and went back to Germany several times over his life after the war.. I'm more than sure that is where most of his inspiration came from.
>Sarah
Seahorsewisprer
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Check out the parameters:
Gegevens: 200 x 50 x 60 cm (hoog), totaal 580 liter, filterinhoud 120 liter, temperatuur 24 Ã"šÃ‚°C, KH 6, pH 8,3, Ca 270, PO4 0,25, NO3 30, Mg 1365, Sal 1025, verlichting 4x 58 watt Osram wit, waarvan er twee uit stonden.
pH 8.3? Ca 270?
Wonder what a kind of light a "Osram wit" is?
Gegevens: 200 x 50 x 60 cm (hoog), totaal 580 liter, filterinhoud 120 liter, temperatuur 24 Ã"šÃ‚°C, KH 6, pH 8,3, Ca 270, PO4 0,25, NO3 30, Mg 1365, Sal 1025, verlichting 4x 58 watt Osram wit, waarvan er twee uit stonden.
pH 8.3? Ca 270?
Wonder what a kind of light a "Osram wit" is?
Samala
New member
Oh wow.. I didnt even look at that.. PO4 0.25!!!! NO3 30!!!! And the SH look wonderful. My my.
Osram.. I used their CF bulbs ages ago on some freshwater tanks.. I dont know how available they are here in US anymore, I thought Sylvania bought them out. Heres a link on comparisons of their NO and CF bulbs. But... 4x58watt sounds more like a T5 setup to me. I think there is still an osram.com.
>Sarah
Osram.. I used their CF bulbs ages ago on some freshwater tanks.. I dont know how available they are here in US anymore, I thought Sylvania bought them out. Heres a link on comparisons of their NO and CF bulbs. But... 4x58watt sounds more like a T5 setup to me. I think there is still an osram.com.
>Sarah
Seahorsewisprer
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So you think he's getting that growth w 4 58 watt T5s?
No way could it be NO? I ran my tank on NO for a while and the caulerpas did grow great....
Hmmm...
Phillips and GE both make a 6500 daylight bulb. I have the model numbers somewhere...
No way could it be NO? I ran my tank on NO for a while and the caulerpas did grow great....
Hmmm...
Phillips and GE both make a 6500 daylight bulb. I have the model numbers somewhere...
Plantbrain
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30ppm NO3, haha, not a reef tank huh?
But you can see the weeds are all over.
Dutch contest are quite different than most and radically different than web based stuff.
They(judges) come into your home and pick apart everything, some have been known to pull up a plant to inspect the roots..
I can fiddle with pictures digitally, be a very good photographer etc.
This judging method does not deal with ANY of that, it addresses the the hobby of scaping and keeping plants.
It is a much purer method of judging, one I greatly prefer.
But the trade off is that it can only be done locally.
Ca++ is pretty low, they could certainly use more but that might be just that level at the time, the KH is also low.
Probably uptake but the weeds.
Like corals, they like both and use it up fast.
Regards,
Tom Barr
But you can see the weeds are all over.
Dutch contest are quite different than most and radically different than web based stuff.
They(judges) come into your home and pick apart everything, some have been known to pull up a plant to inspect the roots..
I can fiddle with pictures digitally, be a very good photographer etc.
This judging method does not deal with ANY of that, it addresses the the hobby of scaping and keeping plants.
It is a much purer method of judging, one I greatly prefer.
But the trade off is that it can only be done locally.
Ca++ is pretty low, they could certainly use more but that might be just that level at the time, the KH is also low.
Probably uptake but the weeds.
Like corals, they like both and use it up fast.
Regards,
Tom Barr
Mark
Premium Member
I'm dutch, but my skills are a little rusty.
"4x 58 watt Osram wit, waarvan er twee uit stonden."
= 4x 58 Osram White, where 2 were off
For a long time, Dutch reef aquarists used a lot of macroalgae in their display. Then the internet came a long, and reefing styles in Europe and America pretty much converged. Now, their tanks look pretty much like ours.
"4x 58 watt Osram wit, waarvan er twee uit stonden."
= 4x 58 Osram White, where 2 were off
For a long time, Dutch reef aquarists used a lot of macroalgae in their display. Then the internet came a long, and reefing styles in Europe and America pretty much converged. Now, their tanks look pretty much like ours.
Seahorsewisprer
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You're dutch? I knew I liked you!
"where 2 were off"? Do you think that could mean not white/ actinic? or where they off as in actually turned off?
So, 580 liters= 200ish gallons? with a 50 gallon filterinhoud/sump? Lit w 4 T5'S daylight and actinic?
Hmmmm...
Tom, maybe we could start a contest here, and you could fly around the country and judge 'em! Might take a bit to organize, but that just gives us time to scape?
"where 2 were off"? Do you think that could mean not white/ actinic? or where they off as in actually turned off?
So, 580 liters= 200ish gallons? with a 50 gallon filterinhoud/sump? Lit w 4 T5'S daylight and actinic?
Hmmmm...
Tom, maybe we could start a contest here, and you could fly around the country and judge 'em! Might take a bit to organize, but that just gives us time to scape?
Samala
New member
Well I am certain to lose then. I have not yet mastered the whole "integrating the tank to the room in an artistic way" thing... you often see good examples of this with the in-wall tanks for ToTm.. like the current one, and last months. 
Suzy.. did you catch the other interesting thing about this tank? He's mixing species.. H. erectus, H. barbouri and H. reidi. Mmhmm.
>Sarah
Suzy.. did you catch the other interesting thing about this tank? He's mixing species.. H. erectus, H. barbouri and H. reidi. Mmhmm.
>Sarah
Seahorsewisprer
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Sarah, you must be being coy! Your tank IS so ToM worthy!
Mixing species? Another SH myth revealed!!!!
Mixing species? Another SH myth revealed!!!!
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