Please Help-Need Advice

[rossthefishman]

Hello, I've got a tank set up at the moment housing A particularly large porcupine puffer (15" long), One grey trigger, and one grouper. The puffer has recently contracted a severe case of cryptocaryon and needs treatment. What's the best way to go? The tank has a DSB and lots of live rock, but no other inverts than pods and worms. What should i do?


thanks


-Tyler

 

[rossthefishman]

Is a Hyposalinity treatment safe for this sort of tank?

 

[Capt. Nemo]

You need to get the porc in a hospital tank immediately and either use the hyposalinity method or a copper treatment.

Gary

 

[Capt. Nemo]

You will actually have to remove all fish from the infected tank and transfer them to a hospital tank for treatment. The infected tank will have to remain fishless ( fallow) for 6 weeks to eradicate parasites.

 

[rossthefishman]

the problem is that the fish is so large, that it's very VERY difficult to move him, and if he should happen to puff up, it would be impossible. Is there any way to treat the display tank?

 

[Capt. Nemo]

The only thing is that I believe you will end up killing your live rock and all of the beneficial bacteria if you treat the display. Do you have a spare tank that you can use as a hospital tank?

 

[rossthefishman]

Yes, i can find one. What about garlic? with the addition of a UV sterilizer? do you think that would be an effective treatment?

 

[Capt. Nemo]

I think those are more preventive treatments rather than a cure. At this point you will have to use hypo or copper. You can still give them garlic since this may boost their immune system.

 

[rossthefishman]

thanks so much for your help!

 

[Capt. Nemo]

I'm glad I could help. How are things progressing? How is the porc doing?

 

[wooden_reefer]

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[wooden_reefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10559340#post10559340 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Capt. Nemo
The only thing is that I believe you will end up killing your live rock and all of the beneficial bacteria if you treat the display. Do you have a spare tank that you can use as a hospital tank?

Most treatment for ich won't kill of nitrification bacteria. Hypo and copper won't.

At risk are all the invertebrates.

It sounds like one of the concerns about treating the whole ST is that some of these invertebrate, those unwanted and cannot be removed, will die off and even normally functioning nitri bacteria cannot handle the surge of the resulting ammonia.

I say if you can judge that the die off of unwanted and unremoveable invertebrate will not be too much, then you can hypo the ST. Have a bottle of Amquel ready at any case.

Collect the removeable invertebrates, the wanted ones can be placed into the QT and supported by a just enough fraction of mature LR.

 

[rossthefishman]

Invertabrates such as copepods, amphipods, and isopods are the invertabrates that i don't what to die off.

 

[crazedpuffer]

Use a little less copper then reccomended. Copper increases slime coat and puffs naturally have a lot of slime coat and makes it very difficult for the puff to breath.

 

[rossthefishman]

okay, at the time i've been treating him in a salinity of 1.010, and adding garlic Xtreme to his water. He still won't eat, and he appears to have problems seeing the food (extremely cloudy eyes) but i don't know what else to do. Is there anything else i can do?

 

[Sk8r]

THere is a product that's been under intense argument on RC, from Chem-marin, that purports to treat ich inside a reef tank with no dieoff. We are all saying 'let Mikey try it' and, understand, none of us who've been at this a long while, using the classic methods of treatment, want to put this in a reef with corals. If you are facing a serious problem, however, in a mostly-fish tank with absolutely no quarantine possible, you might visit their site and take a look at it. This is not a recommendation---just a possible route, if you're in a bad situation with a valuable and failing fish you can't move.