potassium

[Boomer]

Randy

From seawater? Sounds unlikely to me.

No, I was in error I had to go find that thing/report. I read it months ago It was a water assay, post GFO application/treatment and not a GFO adsorption assay, like I was thinkin'. The assay's seem to indicate the water samples were not salt water at all but that is niether here nor there

 

[Boomer]

What a different between Zeovit and Zeolite? I'm confused.

lol there really is no such thing as zeolite.

A zeolite is a hydrated alumino-silicate mineral group. This mineral group is referred to as the Zeolite Group. There are about 50 natural zeolites and about 200 man-made zeolites.

Zeovit is the name of a system, a trade mark like Instant Oceans. This system uses zeolites in it and is what they made their name from. Clinoptilolite, a natural zeolite, is one of the zeolites used in the system.

Old fashion kitty-litter, floor dry and water softeners where all natural zeolites and were Clinoptilolite. Clinoptilolite and other zeolties are some of the most heavily mined minerals in the world. The FW ammonia removers, Nitrate Sponges are all zeolties and all most all are the zeolite Clinoptilolite.

 

[Mike O'Brien]

[ilol there really is no such thing as zeolite...

No zeolite ? There are about 50 different types of naturally occuring zeolite. There are also many more synthesized types.

 

[twon8]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8641053#post8641053 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Randy Holmes-Farley
Club soda is not a good way to go. The CO2 will drive down the pH too much to allow much potassium addition.

I was actually adding it to bring down ph when I noticed the potassium; personally I have no concern for potassium levels and don't test for them, especially with my feeding regimen..

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

:thumbsup:

Sounds good.

 

[Bionicle]

Boomer,

Thank you for your information.

 

[F35-Joint Strike Fighter]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8643298#post8643298 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Boomer
What a different between Zeovit and Zeolite? I'm confused.

lol there really is no such thing as zeolite.



Old fashion kitty-litter, floor dry and water softeners where all natural zeolites and were Clinoptilolite. Clinoptilolite and other zeolties are some of the most heavily mined minerals in the world. The FW ammonia removers, Nitrate Sponges are all zeolties and all most all are the zeolite Clinoptilolite.

So basically, Zeovit is another way to spend the money and can get a great results same as other methods.

 

[Bionicle]

I think so, waste time and money.

 

[dor]

Think thats a bit harsh, it has it's uses especial in mature tanks. It does from my experience remove most things but it only appears to consume mg, potassium etc to a limit, i.e. its removal abilities become depleted until you add or replace it but it does continue to remove nirate.

 

[Boomer]

Yes Hornet that is correct. It is just another type of system but requires more attention and a little more money if you are looking for those kinds of results. It is a very nutrient deficient system that produces extraordinary colors in corals.

You're welcome Bio

 

[Bebo77]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8648459#post8648459 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bionicle
I think so, waste time and money.

unless you run zeo thats pretty harsh to say... imo the colors are worth the price.. and its not that expensice since you only dose drops...

 

[Bebo77]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8647645#post8647645 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by F18-Hornet
So basically, Zeovit is another way to spend the money and can get a great results same as other methods.

what other proven method is there? i tried prodibio that did nothing to my tank a friend of mine tried reef-fresh that did nothing.. the only other system that i have seen that may work is AO's Ultratith but that is almost the exact same thing as Zeo...

 

[dor]

http://www.faunamarin.de/eng/?submenu=1000

this one works for me

 

[F35-Joint Strike Fighter]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8648942#post8648942 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bebo77
what other proven method is there? i tried prodibio that did nothing to my tank a friend of mine tried reef-fresh that did nothing.. the only other system that i have seen that may work is AO's Ultratith but that is almost the exact same thing as Zeo...

go natural!

but the AO doesn't require that much work or at least Zeolith's products have their labels om them so we know what we are dumping into our tank. Another thing that if we contact with those chemical, how should we clean up.

OK, go back to to potassium issue, I was told to dose around 10ml/day, but I dosed tripple dosage but hardly see the K+ went up. Then we asked can we used KCL, they said not safe. what the heck, we don't know what in that K-B bottle. They don't even explain why the K+ is so defiency in Zeo tank. I still run the zeo until or the snake oil runs out then I switch over to natural method. But heck, I learn some thing at least.

 

[MiddletonMark]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8648942#post8648942 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bebo77
what other proven method is there?

LOTS of other methods ... people had great tanks a couple years ago before any of these products ... and still do.

Take a look at TOTM's over time. Amazing tanks, very few use zeolite or other additive-heavy systems.

Steve Weast, Cward, KevinPo, JB NY [many more out there] ... all phenomenal Acro-dominated tanks, none seem to rely on this methodology. [one of the above http://www.cnidarianreef.com/]

What more proof would be needed?
Maybe I'm colorblind, but I don't see that huge a difference between the results these guys get vs. folks using zeolite/probiotic systems.

From my view, there are many other proven methods. Problem is, it's hard to sell devotion to water quality, good flow, strong export, significant import/feeding, and patience.

 

[DrBDC]

Unless I missed something, the only PROVEN method is good husbandry which many of these "methods" incorporate into thier regieme and act as if it's a major breakthough.

"You're saying I actually have to maintain ca/alk/mag and do water changes! No way!!!"

 

[F35-Joint Strike Fighter]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8649108#post8649108 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DrBDC
Unless I missed something, the only PROVEN method is good husbandry which many of these "methods" incorporate into thier regieme and act as if it's a major breakthough.

"You're saying I actually have to maintain ca/alk/mag and do water changes! No way!!!"

my point is if you can keep your tank is close to NSW, your corals will look good.

 

[Bebo77]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8649050#post8649050 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dor
http://www.faunamarin.de/eng/?submenu=1000

this one works for me

thats the other one that i was talking about....

 

[Bebo77]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8649061#post8649061 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by F18-Hornet
go natural!

naaa then i wont have to spend hours a week testing and dosing my tank.. what will i do with all that extra spare time

 

[Bebo77]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8649069#post8649069 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MiddletonMark
LOTS of other methods ... people had great tanks a couple years ago before any of these products ... and still do.

Take a look at TOTM's over time. Amazing tanks, very few use zeolite or other additive-heavy systems.

Steve Weast, Cward, KevinPo, JB NY [many more out there] ... all phenomenal Acro-dominated tanks, none seem to rely on this methodology. [one of the above http://www.cnidarianreef.com/]

What more proof would be needed?
Maybe I'm colorblind, but I don't see that huge a difference between the results these guys get vs. folks using zeolite/probiotic systems.

From my view, there are many other proven methods. Problem is, it's hard to sell devotion to water quality, good flow, strong export, significant import/feeding, and patience.

that is very true, i have seen some beautiful tanks here on RC.. The thing is that Zeo actually allows you to "tweek" your colors... when i was talking to Cris at Reefermadness even he was astounded at the colors of some Zeo tanks.. Iwan, Agedsalt, for example... Chris see's thousands of corals a week so if he is can be totally impressed by a zeovit tanks then i say there must be something to this stuff...

at least thats what i tell myself to justify the expense..lol