potassium

[Bebo77]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8664729#post8664729 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mike O'Brien
If you're interested in potassium level's, Zeo or no. You guy's seem to be the only ones that are using it. I'm just not interested in it. I have colorful coral's.

have you seen some zeo tanks?.. and honestly its about getting the water in out tank to mimic NSW... that should be everyones goal

 

[Mike O'Brien]

Sure, I've seen a few and alot online. In my opinion most had very light pastel colored coral's. Coral's that looked to me to be starving. No coralline algae to speak of, and nasty algae that look's like dinoflagellates instead. Again IMO the methodology used will work without the zeolite and without any of their addatives. Good skimming, frequent water changes and 24/7 activated carbon use. IME you can have richly colored coral's that are fat and happy with good husbandry and plenty of feeding. Just high import and high export.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

have you seen some zeo tanks?.. and honestly its about getting the water in out tank to mimic NSW... that should be everyones goal

I don't want to start a zeo debate here, but I wonder about that philosophy. While I agree it is a good goal, how do you know that you have natural levels of nutrients, and not below normal levels since they cannot be detected with kits?

 

[Bebo77]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8669180#post8669180 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Randy Holmes-Farley
how do you know that you have natural levels of nutrients, and not below normal levels since they cannot be detected with kits?

I test and match what parameters i can... as more and more test kits become avail it will allow the hobbist to better match NSW levels.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I test and match what parameters i can... as more and more test kits become avail it will allow the hobbist to better match NSW levels.

That's a fine plan and goal, but the zeovit method intentionally drives nutrients below testable levels (as do many methods), leaving the attainment of your goal as an unknown.

 

[Bebo77]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8678112#post8678112 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Randy Holmes-Farley
I test and match what parameters i can... as more and more test kits become avail it will allow the hobbist to better match NSW levels.

That's a fine plan and goal, but the zeovit method intentionally drives nutrients bellow testable levels (as do many methods), leaving the attainment of your goal as an unknown.

very true.. the first time i started Zeo i nuked my tank and lost most of my sps frags... i stoped and restarted 2 months later at a much slower rate and have been going strong ever since.

but i gotta tell you it can really stress you out when something goes outa wack and you start getting RTN...

 

[DrBDC]

I think something is funny in Denmark. No offense if anyone is from Denmark! :lol: I just recieved that test kit from Zeovit to test potassium and it tests at 250. I'm wondering about a demand to meet supply type issue here.

 

[Bebo77]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8678431#post8678431 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DrBDC
I think something is funny in Denmark. No offense if anyone is from Denmark! :lol: I just recieved that test kit from Zeovit to test potassium and it tests at 250. I'm wondering about a demand to meet supply type issue here.

do you run Zeo?

 

[DrBDC]

Nope. Husbandry wise I do but not zeovit reactors, additives, etc.

 

[REEF-DADDY]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8678431#post8678431 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DrBDC
I think something is funny in Denmark. No offense if anyone is from Denmark! :lol: I just recieved that test kit from Zeovit to test potassium and it tests at 250. I'm wondering about a demand to meet supply type issue here.

Why do you say that? Looks to be like you better get some K+

 

[Mike O'Brien]

Has someone actually proved we need it. ? Did I miss that ?

 

[REEF-DADDY]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8679331#post8679331 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mike O'Brien
Has someone actually proved we need it. ? Did I miss that ?

Well for me the proof is in the pudding and I can only say since getting my K+ to normal levels my montis really look great. PM my2girls and have him show you his low level K+ monti and the same monti at NSW level.

 

[Mike O'Brien]

Maybe BB tank's have a problem with K, I don't know. I do know that I had very light coral's in general with a BB system and adding sand to the sump alone was enough to cause a complete turn around with all coral's. What monti's were able to survive are now very healthy and growing by the day.

 

[Jason McK]

Tagging along.

ZEO user here and have seen incredible colour improvements in my corals since starting Zeovit.

Since I began raising the levels of K I have noticed increased growth and colour

 

[Mike O'Brien]

Just a thought, you guy's can pick it apart if you want.

Bot method's, Zeo and BB rely heavily on skimming of bacteria. Both are using oversized skimmer's. For example, bomber uses a bullet 3 on his tank wich is pretty large, about 400 gallon's IIRC. Now your not that bad with a 280 and the same skimmer, but many have much smaller tank's with these skimmers. You feed the tank heavily, but the food's are not right for coral's and they get skimmed out too fast. The breakdown of waste is greatly limited and good food that would normally be eaten and reeaten untill it was the size the coral's like is in really short supply. If they had more of that food they would be eating K along with the other thing's they need to survive and grow. Without it they start to metabolize themselves untill their tissue becomes so thin it blow's off.

 

[DrBDC]

I'm not a bb tank, zeo user, nothing but lots of food and probably way too much of it.. I just went and measured the sand and I'm running about 4 inches. My frag tanks off the main system are bb though. My sump which is a 110 gallon stock tank has about 2 inches in it. I always meant to add more sand but never did.

 

[Mike O'Brien]

Do you have light corals ?

 

[DrBDC]

Not particularly. Some I wish would lighten more they seem a little brown. Great growth though on most. A couple seem a little slow.

 

[DrBDC]

Oh, and I tested twice in case I messed it up the first time. Wierd.

 

[Rugrat2006]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8679500#post8679500 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jakets
Tagging along.

ZEO user here and have seen incredible colour improvements in my corals since starting Zeovit.

Since I began raising the levels of K I have noticed increased growth and colour

Do you use KCL or Zeovit K ballance? I saw many bad debating Zeovit K ballance. It's really slow to raise up the potassium level in the water when they use Zeovit K ballance.