Prazi Pro

[JustinReef]

Wondering if I can treat a fish with internal parasites with Prazi Pro while in Hyposalinity?

I have a 2" Burrfish with both ich and parasites. Should they be treated separately? My LFS told me that the Prazi should just kill off the ich as well but I don't believe that. Should I raise the SG back up a bit for Prazi treatment?

Does Prazi Pro really not kill the bio filter in my QT tank? It says its safe but I find that hard to believe...

Any info would be great!

 

[JustinReef]

Anyone?

 

[JustinReef]

Bump...Im holding off on the prazi pro meds for the IP because of hypo. Anyone know if its ok to treat with prazi during hypo???

 

[JustinReef]

???

 

[JHemdal]

Praziquantel can be used in freshwater, brackish or marine aquariums. It won't harm the biological filtration of an aquarium (assuming the aquarium is properly established).

I'm assuming Prazi-pro is just paraziquantel, but you should contact the manufacturer to be sure.


Jay

 

[JustinReef]

Yes it is just Paraziquantel, I called a week ago. It is meant for fresh, brackish and marine but I was just worried about the stress it may cause on fish already in hypo.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12622688#post12622688 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JHemdal
Praziquantel can be used in freshwater, brackish or marine aquariums. It won't harm the biological filtration of an aquarium (assuming the aquarium is properly established).

I'm assuming Prazi-pro is just paraziquantel, but you should contact the manufacturer to be sure.


Jay

 

[Amazon4]

I'm in the same boat as you. I wanted to make sure it wasn't something to do after hypo. I think I'll do a 25% water change tonight and dose with PraziPro.

My other concern was I'm battling nitrates and I'm not sure why. For the last three days I've done a 25% water change each day and the nitrates have only come down a little bit. I had been doing a 5% change every day.

Does hypo adversely effect the biological filtration? It's my first time going through hypo. But when I had a larger bioload and QT'd (no hypo) for 3 weeks I didn't have this problem.

 

[JustinReef]

If you lower it slowly it will not kill off all the bio filter and new bacteria should colonize in the lower SG. I have done hypo many times and never had the bio filter die off completely.

The fish I want to treat with Prazi in hypo is actually a fish that is often found in Brackish waters when young, so maybe that will help. I think I will raise the SG back up a little before I treat with Prazi.

 

[jnc914]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12623407#post12623407 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Amazon4
I'm in the same boat as you. I wanted to make sure it wasn't something to do after hypo. I think I'll do a 25% water change tonight and dose with PraziPro.

My other concern was I'm battling nitrates and I'm not sure why. For the last three days I've done a 25% water change each day and the nitrates have only come down a little bit. I had been doing a 5% change every day.

Does hypo adversely effect the biological filtration? It's my first time going through hypo. But when I had a larger bioload and QT'd (no hypo) for 3 weeks I didn't have this problem.

Try adding Seachem Stability during your Hypo to boost the bio-filter. This should hopefully control nitrates. Sometimes your biofilter needs a little extra time to adjust to hypo. I lowered my salinity to 1.009 over a four day period and have not had any issues with PH or Nitrates.

 

[JustinReef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12629646#post12629646 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnc914
Try adding Seachem Stability during your Hypo to boost the bio-filter. This should hopefully control nitrates. Sometimes your biofilter needs a little extra time to adjust to hypo. I lowered my salinity to 1.009 over a four day period and have not had any issues with PH or Nitrates.

Yeah doing it slowly is key. I lower mine over a week.

Well I raised it back up to 1.020 for the Przi Pro and removed the bio filter because it was causing a bacterial bloom in the QT that was not going to be good. I did a 100% water change and a new QT tank for the Prazi treatment. Im going to just try to keep everything ok with an ammonia removing product for the week of treatment. I guess you are not suppose to do water changes during this time. I may do one after 3 days though and dose the meds again.

So far after one afternoon and night, the fish is doing very well and is eating very well still. I noticed that her feces look totally normal, I thought with IP they are usually stringy and white??? Im having a hard time finding any signs of IP except how skinny she is and seems to be having a hard time putting on weight. Otherwise, she is very active, colorful, eats well, ect. What would be another sign of IP I can look for?

 

[JustinReef]

Oh and what does the Prazi do to the Parasites? Does it actually kill them or just cause them to leave the host? Do I need to watch for the parasites and remove them or will they just die off?

 

[Amazon4]

Thanks jnc914. I realized after I read your post that previously I used that in the QT, but did not this time. I shall add it now - it could still help!

 

[Pryncezz]

Prazi effectively kills flukes. it's safe on your bioload, and non stressful to the fish. Flukes, mind you are VERY stressful!

It will not kill ich at all.

 

[JustinReef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12632321#post12632321 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pryncezz
Prazi effectively kills flukes. it's safe on your bioload, and non stressful to the fish. Flukes, mind you are VERY stressful!

It will not kill ich at all.

No thats why the fish is in hypo.

How do you know though if its killed the parasites? Is it just a weight gain thing or are there other ways to tell?

 

[jnc914]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12632522#post12632522 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by justinpsmith
No thats why the fish is in hypo.

How do you know though if its killed the parasites? Is it just a weight gain thing or are there other ways to tell?

It depends on what symptoms your fish were showing prior to the Prazi. In my tank, the fish that had flukes would have them on their eyes and in their gills. They would dart around the tank and hide in the rockwork. After about the third day of Prazi, they would have clear eyes and would be swimming in the open water and eating more. I always let in in the water for seven days, do a partial water change, and then do a second treatment for another three to five days. I have read that Prazi is not always effective during its first dosing and will usally need a subsequent week of treatment to ensure the fluke are gone. Jst watch your nitrates because you can't run your skimmer during use.

 

[JustinReef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12632856#post12632856 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnc914
It depends on what symptoms your fish were showing prior to the Prazi. In my tank, the fish that had flukes would have them on their eyes and in their gills. They would dart around the tank and hide in the rockwork. After about the third day of Prazi, they would have clear eyes and would be swimming in the open water and eating more. I always let in in the water for seven days, do a partial water change, and then do a second treatment for another three to five days. I have read that Prazi is not always effective during its first dosing and will usally need a subsequent week of treatment to ensure the fluke are gone. Jst watch your nitrates because you can't run your skimmer during use.

Yeah I don't know if this fish has flukes.

It has no symptoms except a sunken belly. She eats and eats and eats but has not gained weight in the two weeks I have had her. Well maybe a little but not much. Besides the belly though, she is active, seems happy, never hides, no scratching or anything, clear eyes, normal breathing, just no signs of stress.

I really have no idea if she has internal parasites or not. Her feces are "normal" as well, so that did not help.

What else can I look for?

 

[JustinReef]

Its been two days of Prazi and things seem worse rather than better. She stopped eating as soon as I medicated the tank. She swims around frantically most of the time. I am really worried about the not eating because she is already soooooo skinny.

Is this normal? I though Prazi doesn't really effect anything???

 

[JustinReef]

Would the meds be making her not feel too good? What if she did not actually have parasites to begin with, would the meds be bad?

 

[LargeAngels]

IME Prazipro does not affect fish negatively. Are you sure it is ich? Hypo is only good for ich. If your fish has velvet then hypo or Prazi will not kill it. Only copper has been proven to work on velvet.

 

[JustinReef]

She does not have ich or velvet. I meant to update that...it turned out to be airbubbles from the airstone in her tank. Just after I wrote that first post, I turned off the airstone to feed her and all her "ich" spots came off. Some of the bubbles were so tiny they looked like ich.

Anyways, she has not had ich yet at all.