Prodibio!
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The below post is my opinion of the Prodibio products that I have experience with and what I have gathered from other RC members that have had experiences so far with this product line and any related husbandry habits in order to maintain a low nutrient system for SPS corals. I still consider myself as a newb after being in the hobby since 1992 as there is always something new to learn from the person sitting next to you! SO please don't shred me apart for giving my opinion!
I would be skeptic of this as well and suggest for anyone considering to try out new/unknown additives in their system to do their due diligence before so. Like I stated earlier I followed the thread for a long time and PM'ed one of the contributors (TryTheChi) in the thread many times with questions. I also did some research on Zeovit as a comparison to Prodibio. I recall the Mark Weiss products, but have never tried them.
Several RC members that have been following the thread wanted to give Prodibio a try and have now been using it for a decent amount of time. There are some before and after pictures at various durations since they started dosing as well as comments and recommendations. Their pictures have demonstrated good results and their comments so far have been anything but negative.
Prodibio is based on biotechnology. I believe that good bacteria is beneficial for marine systems and immensely assists in the nutrient export process. Using a system to consistently manage selective "good" bacteria helps to create a low nutrient environment, an environment most SPS thrive in. A portion of the product line also provides nutrients and trace elements for the corals. The coral food and trace elements play an important role for corals in a low nutrient environment to ensure they are not being stripped of their necessities.
One item of concern that was voiced on RC is that some sponges began to decline while other sponges did not have a reaction. This also included a decline in macro algae and nuisance algae. I have a few sponges (red, yellow, orange, green, purple) and noticed the red sponge began to turn brown by the 4th day after the initial dose. I have also been assured that my macro algae will decline and that I will need remove it from my sump/refug eventually. There is a before and after picture on RC that includes the elimination of nuisance algae around the SPS while further into the dosing regimen. These are all positive effects and indicators demonstrating the low nutrient environment that the bacteria is establishing. Soft and LPS corals have not had any adverse reactions that I have noticed and it has been reported that none should be expected. Soft and LPS should benefit from the supplements. As for the sponges, perhaps these users were not dosing live phytoplankton, which I believe plays an important role in this type of system. As for my red sponge showing signs as a result, I have not been keeping up with my phyto cultures recently, but plan to start another batch soon!
FWIW although I have only started with the product, I have been following Iwan's thread, other threads, and non-RC forums, and have come to the conclusion that Prodibio is a product line worth looking into if you have "SPS fever" or are trying to accomplish a low nutrient system to better manage problems in your tank as a result of excess nutrients. Keep in mind from what I have read/learned, Prodibio can be used alone, but it has been recommended by Iwan and other RC members to use this in combination with other products. I will post this information.
The dosing regimen listed below is closely derived from "Iwan's method". I have attempted to extract and compile this information to the best of my knowledge (searching through a very long thread!).
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Probiotic (biotechnology based on bacterial interactions with dissolved compounds)
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Prodibio BioDigest: 1 ampule per 1000ltr every 2 weeks
Prodibio Biotipm: 1 ampule per 200ltr every 2 weeks
Zeo Start2: 1ml per 100ltr 1x/day
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Coral Food and Trace Elements
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Prodibio Reef Booster: 1 ampule per 400ltr 1x/week
Zeo Potassium Iodine Fluoride (PIF): 1 drop per 100ltr 2x/week
Zeo Coral Vitaliser (CV): 1-3 drops per 100ltr 1x/day lights out (# of drops depends on stocking levels; SPS food)
Zeo Amino Acid High Concentrate (AAHC): 1-3 drops per 100 ltr 1x/day lights out (coral growth and coloration enhancer)
Zeo K- Ballance: .5ml per 100ltr 2x/week (Potassium supplement varies depending on indicators.)
Notes:
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Water Changes!!: 10% 1x/week (Trace elements are not taken up at the same rate. Elements can reach toxic levels.)
Activated carbon: 24/7
Prodibio - Start using products on day 1
Zeo CV - Start 4 weeks into Prodibio use. (Has shelf life of 1 -2 years. Keep in fridge)
Zeo AAHC - Start 6 weeks into Prodibio / 2 weeks into CV (Use to avoid bleaching due to low nutrients).
Quantity: for 600ltr (100ltr = 25USG)
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Prodibio BioDigests: 30 vials
Prodibio BioTIPM: 90 vials
Prodibio ReefBooster: 60 vials
Zeo Start 2: 10 x 500ml bottles. (2 500ml bottles for 6 months)
Zeo CV: 100ml (2 50ml bottles. This product has a shelf life and should be kept in the fridge.)
Zeo AAHC: 100ml
Zeo PIF: 50ml
Zeo K- Ballance: 500ml
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Probiotic (biotechnology based on bacterial interactions with dissolved compounds)
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Prodibio BioDigest: 1 ampule per 1000ltr every 2 weeks
Prodibio Biotipm: 1 ampule per 200ltr every 2 weeks
Zeo Start2: 1ml per 100ltr 1x/day
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Coral Food and Trace Elements
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Prodibio Reef Booster: 1 ampule per 400ltr 1x/week
Zeo Potassium Iodine Fluoride (PIF): 1 drop per 100ltr 2x/week
Zeo Coral Vitaliser (CV): 1-3 drops per 100ltr 1x/day lights out (# of drops depends on stocking levels; SPS food)
Zeo Amino Acid High Concentrate (AAHC): 1-3 drops per 100 ltr 1x/day lights out (coral growth and coloration enhancer)
Zeo K- Ballance: .5ml per 100ltr 2x/week (Potassium supplement varies depending on indicators.)
Notes:
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Water Changes!!: 10% 1x/week (Trace elements are not taken up at the same rate. Elements can reach toxic levels.)
Activated carbon: 24/7
Prodibio - Start using products on day 1
Zeo CV - Start 4 weeks into Prodibio use. (Has shelf life of 1 -2 years. Keep in fridge)
Zeo AAHC - Start 6 weeks into Prodibio / 2 weeks into CV (Use to avoid bleaching due to low nutrients).
Quantity: for 600ltr (100ltr = 25USG)
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Prodibio BioDigests: 30 vials
Prodibio BioTIPM: 90 vials
Prodibio ReefBooster: 60 vials
Zeo Start 2: 10 x 500ml bottles. (2 500ml bottles for 6 months)
Zeo CV: 100ml (2 50ml bottles. This product has a shelf life and should be kept in the fridge.)
Zeo AAHC: 100ml
Zeo PIF: 50ml
Zeo K- Ballance: 500ml
PelagicMagic
New member
the one thing I have noticed on all the tanks of the month that is constant weekly water changes. Everything else varies such as ozone, lighting, supplements, etc but the weekly WC is what everyone does
TryTheChi
Member
Greatings Florida (NE) from the UK (SE) 
Scuba asked me to pop over to add any observations from my experience.
I think people are right to be skeptical about 'magic' solutions in a bottle - I fell for the MW stuff too -:thumbdown: so will only adopt anything other than skimming and water changes etc after proven photographic evidence of benefit from a non comercial reliable source. Fortunatly I stumpled across the Iwan thread - and gradually began to adopt his system.
To give you a flavor for what the 'Iwan Method' has done for me in 11 weeks pls see a before after pic comparison.
Before: Practice: 1.6% water change every other day and a skimmer rated for 4 times the tank size 24/7 carbon and rowaphos and booming chateo refugium. UV. BB tank.
After 11 weeks: Prodi Digest Trace and Booster olone for 4 weeks, Zeo CV @ week4 zeo AAHC at 7 - K- Ballance at week 9. W/c skimming/lighting carbon all the same - UV stopped, cheateo starved to death.
JME
Cheers
Simon
Scuba asked me to pop over to add any observations from my experience.
I think people are right to be skeptical about 'magic' solutions in a bottle - I fell for the MW stuff too -:thumbdown: so will only adopt anything other than skimming and water changes etc after proven photographic evidence of benefit from a non comercial reliable source. Fortunatly I stumpled across the Iwan thread - and gradually began to adopt his system.
To give you a flavor for what the 'Iwan Method' has done for me in 11 weeks pls see a before after pic comparison.
Before: Practice: 1.6% water change every other day and a skimmer rated for 4 times the tank size 24/7 carbon and rowaphos and booming chateo refugium. UV. BB tank.
After 11 weeks: Prodi Digest Trace and Booster olone for 4 weeks, Zeo CV @ week4 zeo AAHC at 7 - K- Ballance at week 9. W/c skimming/lighting carbon all the same - UV stopped, cheateo starved to death.
JME
Cheers
Simon
