Programming Help needed for using with a Auto Start Generator

[coffeenut]

I need to be able to shut off all my halides for 9 hours if my power goes out for like 5-8 seconds, as my generator will detect the power outage, and automatically turn on, and I need all 11 Halides to not come on and blow the breaker on my Genny..
I figure 9 hours is long enough for the power to restore, or for me to manually intervene

So I have been trying this:

PowerFail

Set OFF
If Power PROP_UP Off 000 Then ON
Min Time 540:00 Then ON

and my Halides look like this

PROP_N_MH_E

Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 12:00 to 16:00 Then ON
If Time 20:30 to 23:59 Then ON
If Outlet PowerFail = ON Then OFF
If Outlet HighTemp = ON Then OFF
If FeedD 000 Then ON

being Powerfail is supposed to turn them off for 9 hours.. but it doesnt work.

 

[schwaggs]

What is the problem, that the PowerFail outlet does not turn ON when the power fails or that it turns OFF right after the power is restored???

 

[coffeenut]

It does not turn off the lights at all. so basically it doesn't work at all.

 

[schwaggs]

Does the PowerFail outlet turn on and off appropriately?

 

[coffeenut]

How can I tell.. I had 10+ power outages on Tues during the Snow storm.Is ther a LOG i can go look @?

 

[swearint]

PowerFail

Set OFF
If Power PROP_UP Off 000 Then ON
Min Time 540:00 Then ON

What is PROP_UP ? Have you renamed the EB8 module? You can only detect a power loss for the Apex or an EBx. How many EB8 modules are you running?

You should see PowerFail change state on the Status Page or you can look at the Outlet XML Report. If PowerFail is not changing to ON when the EB8 is without power then the Apex is not recognizing the loss. Do you happen to run backup power on the 12VDC port? I have reported an issue to Neptune where the Apex does not recognize loss of power on my two EB8 modules when there is 12VDC power.

Todd

Todd

 

[aquamanic]

You might also check with your generator mfg or the mfg of the transfer switch. Many home generators have a NO/NC circuit that can be used for home alarms, etc. If yours had one, you would run that into a breakout box as a switch, then just test for the switch being OPEN or CLOSED. You wouldn't have to worry about 9 hours then, they would stay off as long as the genset was running.

 

[coffeenut]

PowerFail

Set OFF
If Power PROP_UP Off 000 Then ON
Min Time 540:00 Then ON

What is PROP_UP ? Have you renamed the EB8 module? You can only detect a power loss for the Apex or an EBx. How many EB8 modules are you running?

You should see PowerFail change state on the Status Page or you can look at the Outlet XML Report. If PowerFail is not changing to ON when the EB8 is without power then the Apex is not recognizing the loss. Do you happen to run backup power on the 12VDC port? I have reported an issue to Neptune where the Apex does not recognize loss of power on my two EB8 modules when there is 12VDC power.





Prop_UP is a EB8..
Yes i do have a 12v dc power
so i want a EB8 to see there is no power, then set off the powerfail, send me an email/text once the genny starts up.. and brings it all back to life.

I had the 12v connected to a UPS, but once the ginny starts up the UPS will no longer power any thing connected to the BATT side.. it just clicks.. it doesnt like the type of power put out by the ginny.. BTW does any one know of a UPS that will work with a ginny?





Todd

Todd

Prop_UP is a EB8..
Yes i do have a 12v dc power
so i want a EB8 to see there is no power, then set off the powerfail, send me an email/text once the genny starts up.. and brings it all back to life.

I had the 12v connected to a UPS, but once the ginny starts up the UPS will no longer power any thing connected to the BATT side.. it just clicks.. it doesnt like the type of power put out by the ginny.. BTW does any one know of a UPS that will work with a ginny?

 

[coffeenut]

You might also check with your generator mfg or the mfg of the transfer switch. Many home generators have a NO/NC circuit that can be used for home alarms, etc. If yours had one, you would run that into a breakout box as a switch, then just test for the switch being OPEN or CLOSED. You wouldn't have to worry about 9 hours then, they would stay off as long as the genset was running.

I will look into that.
Thanks.

 

[swearint]

Prop_UP is a EB8..
Yes i do have a 12v dc power
so i want a EB8 to see there is no power, then set off the powerfail, send me an email/text once the genny starts up.. and brings it all back to life.

I suspect the issue is the 12VDC power supply. I discovered the issue and confirmed it with Curt at Neptune. When the 12VDC power is connected, my Apex does not recognize the loss of power on either of the EB8s. Do you have just the one EB8?

Todd

 

[coffeenut]

I suspect the issue is the 12VDC power supply. I discovered the issue and confirmed it with Curt at Neptune. When the 12VDC power is connected, my Apex does not recognize the loss of power on either of the EB8s. Do you have just the one EB8?

Todd

I have 5 of the EB8s running. and the one "PROP_UP" is not the one my Controller connects directly to.

 

[aquamanic]

Doesn't matter. They all share power through the bus. As long as one has power the base module will be powered.

 

[swearint]

I have 5 of the EB8s running. and the one "PROP_UP" is not the one my Controller connects directly to.

OK, try this. With everything plugged in as normal, unplug PROP_UP from AC power. Does Power_Fail change to ON? If not, then unplug the 12VDC adapter. Does it now change to ON?

Todd

 

[coffeenut]

OK, try this. With everything plugged in as normal, unplug PROP_UP from AC power. Does Power_Fail change to ON? If not, then unplug the 12VDC adapter. Does it now change to ON?

Todd

i will try this.. thanks..