Proof of Glass breaking

apophis924

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I keep hearing a lot about mantis breaking the glass on small glass tanks. I currently have one in a 5 gal acryl tank and i prefer glass. glass is cheaper , does not scratch and is easer to clean. Is there ANYONE that has first had experience with a mantis shrimp breaking the glass on a ten gallon tank?? I have read all the data about force and speed, seen vidoes of them smashing snail shells But i have yet to hear from anyone that says "I had a mantis and he broke the glass."
 
Dr. Roy has lost a few 10g tanks to large stomatopods.. .i think the rule is any smasher over 4" needs acrylic, or thick glass.
 
I would like to hear it from Dr. Ron if he would like to chime in,,,thats the reson for this thread FIRST hand experience, not "I heard...or read or I know a friend of a friend type of deal. This hobby has more than enough of the "i yeards" or the " i read" or "i know of's" There is No substitute for First hand knowledge.
 
I have read (probably on the Stomatopod site) of an instance, in Britain, where a mantis broke a tank (at a school, I think) where students were tapping at the glass to provoke it. I've also seen one or two posts on boards where people have said it happened to them. I've seen my peacock snap at my finger, against the acrylic, several times, and at its own reflection as well. If it's exerting as much force in those blows as it does against a snail shell, then I don't doubt the tank pane would break if it were glass.

The glass on a 10 is relatively thin, and I don't think I'd want to chance it with a large smasher.

Ken

[edit] PS: Just read your last post - you must have written it when I was composing mine (got sidetracked with some work on my tank for the last hour or so, and just sat down and finished this) - sorry for more hear-say.

PPS: What's an "i yeard"?
 
I've posted numerous times on this site discussing the ability of various species and sizes of stomatopods to break tanks. I've kept literally thousands of stomatopods and while aqurium breakage is rare, it does happen. The most spectacular case I have ever seen was years ago when a very large 7 inch O. scyllarus female took out the face plate of a 35 gal. Instant Ocean. These were epoxy coated wood with a glass viewing port in the front. Because the systems had a built in compressor for refrigeration, they used double glazing for the window to cut down on condensation. For some reason, perhaps because she saw her reflection, the animal struck the window in the middle and broke a small hole with a crack running the length of it.

Most damage occurs when the animals try to dig and run into the bottom edge of the aquarium. In the field, O. scyllarus typically burrow and when digging, if they run into a shell, etc., they break it. They try the same thing in a tank and sometimes are successful in chipping the edge causing a leak. I have seen one a few tanks shattered, but I have seen many more drain dry because the stomatopod chipped a corner or bottom edge.

As a rule of thumb, I only consider 4-5 inch O. scyllarus, 10 inch + Hemisquilla, and very large 4 inch Gonodactylus chiragra or G. graphurus capable of doing in a standard 10 - 20 gal tank. Larger tanks typically made of thicker glarss should be fine.

Roy
 
apophis924 said:
I would like to hear it from Dr. Ron if he would like to chime in,,,thats the reson for this thread FIRST hand experience, not "I heard...or read or I know a friend of a friend type of deal. This hobby has more than enough of the "i yeards" or the " i read" or "i know of's" There is No substitute for First hand knowledge.


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sorry i tried to help, and its Dr. roY
 
I had a particularly active mantis who would swim around the tank (erratically), often bumping into things. When he did bump into something, he would usually strike at it.. I kept him in a 2.5 gallon tank because he was such a little guy. I didn't think he could break any of the glass because it was so thick in comparison to his size. But he succeded in breaking the glass top, which was very thin (<1/4").

Mike
 
I kept my large female 6" O.s in a 10 gallon for about a year and a half with no problem. Then one night she got spooked by a refection or something and wacked the front glass as hard as she could. She knocked out a chip of glass with a small hole in the tank similar to a BB hitting glass. I was able to put the chip back in to fill the hole and put a piece of duct tape over it to hold it in place. This slowed the leak long enough to run out and buy a 15 gallon to switch her over too. A 15 gallon has thicker glass than a 10 and worth the extra money IMO.
 
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