Putting together my "future" 75 AGA RR (progress)

JerseyWendy

Premium Member
Hi everyone,

Well, I finally started taking some baby steps towards putting together my 75 AGA RR.

Before I show you what I've done so far, I'd like to personally thank Travis Stevens and Bill (MCWarhammer), who ever so patiently are answering my gazillion questions. :) Another BIG thank you to Joe (Mongoose), who sold me the 75 + a 30 which I'll be using for a sump, and last but not least to Jon (demon16v), who supplied me with my return pump. ;)

Here is what I've got so far for my setup:
75 AGA RR
30 AGA (future sump)
Octopus NW-200 skimmer
Quiet One 4000 return pump

Yesterday I went to Lowe's to purchase some lumber and 1/4" plexiglass, which I asked to have cut to size for my baffles. Of course I bought wood screws, liquid nails, brackets, eggcrate, and silicone, too.

Got home - all excited - and realized the plexiglass wasn't cut correctly, it was a wee bit too wide to fit into the sump. A bit disgruntled I pondered on how to fix it. Out came my husband's super heavy duty sander, and ever so carefully I "filed" off some excess until all 4 baffles fit nicely. Then I noticed that one of the baffles was an entire inch taller than the others. Ok, I'll admit, I was pretty p-o'ed because there was NO way I was going to file down an entire inch with that sander. (At that point the sander seemed to weigh 20 lbs. :eek2: ). Out came the soldering iron. After spending over an hour in the garage soldering off that extra inch, and after having lost all feelings in my toes (it was pretty nippy in that garage), I finally got it done.

This morning the "real" adventure began because I wanted to put together that sump with the baffles and the eggcrate.

Here's a picture of how I had it laid out in the dining room:
SumpLayout2.jpg


Before I could do anything I had to clean the sump and leak-proof it:
Cleanandleaktest.jpg


Then I drew in where the baffles were going to be placed:
Drawoutwherebafflesgo.jpg


THEN I found out the hard way that siliconing can be a bit messy. :lol: I used one of my bird's old perches, which is exactly 1" to get the second baffle in place:
1inchguidefor2ndbaffle.jpg



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Well, and when all was done (and after leaking God only knows how much of that sticky stuff all over the place), it looked like this:
Sumpfinished2.jpg


Sumpfinished.jpg


The reason the chamber before the 3 baffles is so big is because of the Octopus' footprint, plus I left myself about 2" to mess with in case I ever have to.
:) :)

So you'd think I was done for 1 day, right?

Nope, since I was on a roll, I figure I'd give woodworking a shot, and this is how far I've come:
Standprocess2.jpg


If the stand seems a bit high - well, that's because it is. It's 42" to be exact. The reason behind is....well....how do I put this? I'm not the youngest grasshopper anymore, and I certainly don't have the healthiest spine, so I figured I'd make the fish tank a bit higher so that I don't have to constantly bend over to look at it (once it's all done). Of course there is tons of work left to be done on the stand, but I admit I'm proud of myself because it actually turned out 100% level.

I'll update as I go along. I'm most definitely exhausted. :eek1:

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Wendy
 
Hi Wendy

Hi Wendy

Hi Wendy,
Looks like you are off and running now!!

I would like to offer my 2 cents that might help.
For the baffles in the sump. They look a little too close together (1 inch??) for them to trap bubbles from the skimmer and overflow (from the tank). You might want to space them at least 2 inches apart to give the bubbles sometime to break up.
I know, I know, it will set you back some time and more silicone but that might be a better way to go. If you do redo it you can use some painters tape to keep the mess down. Also you might want to add a bubble tower in the overflow (from tank) area. This will help to keep the bubbles from entering the rest of the sump.

Great idea for the stand!! I always like to build my stands a little tall. I hate when you have to bend over to look inside a tank. Just remember that you will need a chair/ladder to do any work in the tank. Also I would add some more bracing to the structure or skin it with some plywood because the “L” brackets will not be enough to hold it square.

Keep up the great work,
Jon
 
Hi Jon,

(Hope you're feeling better).

The baffles are 1.5" apart. Now - if I decide to place them 2", how do I get them off, and how do I remove all that (messy) silicone? Razorblade?

The skimmer will be on the left side, followed by the 3 baffles, then the refugium, and lastly the return pump. So it would be a good idea to install 3 baffles again before the return? :confused: I can't take credit on designing the sump BTW, it's from here: http://www.melevsreef.com/acrylics/sumps/glass/

Believe me, I'd be happy to do it over if it'll make it better. Just please tell me how to get that stuff out. :)

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Wendy
 
Thanks Joe. :) Yep, I think I'm on a roll now. (Until I run out of energy :rollface: )

Jon, sorry, but I had a "blonde" moment (Yes, I'm a blonde). I know what you mean now about the baffles. You recommended that I put another set of baffles right behind where the water (overflow) enters the tank, before it gets to the skimmer, right?

And yes, the stand will need TONS of reinforcing. Lowe's, Home Depot and other hardware stores will be my second homes in no time at all. :D Tomorrow is another day, and I do plan on getting more lumber - unless I redo the baffles first. I bought more than enough Silicone. Heck, my husband wondered whether I was planning on installing new windows in the entire house, that's how much silicone I bought. :hmm2:

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Wendy
 
Looking good Wendy!

I'm interested in your stand. How much wood did it take you to get this far? I'll possibly be putting a 75 together as well this spring/summer. :)

Can't wait to see the rest!

Brandon
 
I love this part of the project. You're off to a great start, and your sump holds more water than my entire system, LOL. I have sump-envy...

I concur on the bracing. Water weights about 8 lbs per gallon. Your 75 gallon is going to be roughly 590 lbs when full. Definatly brace it up more. A diagonal crossmember would be good in the back and a couple of load bearing braces in the front wouldn't hurt. It would suck to put your tank on it for the first time, fill it up, only to have it crash to the floor and shatter.

Keep at it thought it looks great. I love the look of the eggcrate siliconed in there. Wish i'd thought of that.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9354124#post9354124 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NeveSSL
Looking good Wendy!

I'm interested in your stand. How much wood did it take you to get this far? I'll possibly be putting a 75 together as well this spring/summer. :)

Can't wait to see the rest!

Brandon

Brandon,

So far I've only used 5 pieces of wood:
5 (2 x 4s), 96" each, and I have quite a bit of scrap.

Today I'm planning on putting several cross beams on the bottom and putting a solid piece on the bottom as well.

My husband recommended using a big, heavy piece of solid wood for the back as well, and he'll then cut out a piece of it for wiring, etc.

I'm thinking of making both sides into doors for additional access to the sump (and to get the sump in there to begin with).

I'll update as I go along. :)

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Wendy
 
590 lbs on those 2x4" is IMO a bit risky. I would say build the top frame out of 2x6's and then use the 2x4's fo the legs doubling in the corners and cross-bracing to keep it from acordianing(sp?) to the floor if it will be free standing.

Nice sump, I am cycling a 65g tall atm with a 20g sump and am thinking of upgrading to a bigger sump myself.

Nice job and keep up the good work, that is really good for a days work.

BTW, yes, a razor blade works great for removing Silicone.
 
Wendy, its looking great! I'm not wood worker, but if they think you need more support, I suppose I concur :-) 75 gallons of water and broken glass is a big mess to clean! lol

Any way, you're off to a great start, and I'll be keeping up with this thread, you should post a link to it in the jersey forums, so the club members can see what you're working on too.
 
Hi Bill :)

Will do what you suggested about posting a link in the NJ forum.

Ok, I looked up countless DIY stands, and even though there are very few that use 2 x 6s, the majority are using the 2 x 4s (with stands as big or even bigger than mine).

I just got back from Lowe's and Home Depot as I knew yesterday already that the stand needed some heavy duty reinforcing. I was just so thrilled to have gotten the frame 100% level, as this was my first attempt at something like this.

By the time the stand is done, I will have the entire family jump on it, and if it isn't wobbling then, it should hold the tank (filled with everything) just fine. :D

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Wendy
 
The 'family jumping' test is valid so long as your family is resiliant and understanding, lol. I climbed aboard my stand as I'm easily twice the weight it would carry and it held up really well. Keep at it...
 
Last update for today (my hands are really sore).

I managed to finish the framework, and it is quite sturdy now. :)

Frameworkdone2.jpg


Frameworkdone1.jpg


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Wendy
 
Wendy! It looks wonderful so far. I got to read the first post and skim the pictures through the rest. I'll Subscribe to the thread and post back later. It looks good so far.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9358960#post9358960 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Travis L. Stevens
Wendy! It looks wonderful so far. I got to read the first post and skim the pictures through the rest. I'll Subscribe to the thread and post back later. It looks good so far.

Thank you so much, Travis. :)

You ought to know that your thread has truly inspired me, and I am determined to get this thing going.

Alex had some great ideas on how to reinforce the stand, so he's really getting involved. ;)

Tomorrow I'll be using a table saw (by myself) for the first time because the circular saw won't cut anything wider than 5". :( I'm sure that'll be a challenge.
( Did I must mess up the names of those saws? Did I reverse them? If I did, I apologize. I may not know what they're called, but I do know which ones I need to use for certain applications. :lol: )

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Wendy
 
hi Wendy, nice tank, really good start, if you have any question please don't hesitate to ask

Gabe
 
Hi Gabe, and thank you very much. :)

I took a break from the stand yesterday because I needed for my husband to explain to me on how to properly and safely use the table saw.

Since he is off today, I had THE best helping hand I could ever ask for. All morning we worked on cutting the front pieces to size and fitting them on the stand nice and snug.

In a while we'll be off to Home Depot to get wood for the doors, hinges, Kilz, stain, varnish, and anything else we'll need to finish it.

StandProgress3-2-07.jpg


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Wendy
 
Looks great. Make sure that you leave a large enough area in the back for easy plumbing, and wide enough door to make adding a sump or refugium easy.

Also, you might want to show your hubby that hammering is easier with the metal end and not the handle ;) Just kidding. Looking great so far.
 
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