QT method for nano? Not QTing the corals.

[Charley Diesing]

I am planning on setting up a 20-30G (haven't decided yet) nano in the near future... I want to do things right this time around... Second time getting back into the hobby and lets just say that the first time fish didn't work out so well for me.

I know how Ich, velvet, etc work... With there fallow periods etc...

That being said I only plan on having 2-4 fish...

From the reading I have been doing... In order for QT methods to have any real success you also need to QT every coral for 8 weeks (fallow period)...

I really don't have the space for extra tanks... Even the fish QT will be temporary until I have QT'd all the fish.

Questions:

What QT methods would you do for a couple of nano fish?

Is it worth QTing if I am not going to QT the corals?

 

[ThRoewer]

Ideally you get all the inverts and corals first.
Then wait 3 to 6 months
Then add the fish (after QT)

The type of the fish also matter. Equally if you ever want to move them to another system.

 

[MaceMedic]

I hear that dipping is a quick and effective was to free most pests and problems from the corals.

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[Deinonych]

I hear that dipping is a quick and effective was to free most pests and problems from the corals.

For coral pests (flatworms, nudibranchs etc.) yes. For fish parasites (e.g. crypto cysts attached to frag plugs), dips are ineffective.

 

[Charley Diesing]

Ideally you get all the inverts and corals first.
Then wait 3 to 6 months
Then add the fish (after QT)

The type of the fish also matter. Equally if you ever want to move them to another system.

So basically I can never add any corals ever... Once fish are added... That sounds depressing.

If I didn't use this method... Is it even worth QTing the fish? Or am I likely to end up with all the disease anyway via introduction through corals?

 

[Deinonych]

So basically I can never add any corals ever... Once fish are added... That sounds depressing.

If I didn't use this method... Is it even worth QTing the fish? Or am I likely to end up with all the disease anyway via introduction through corals?

No, you can add corals. Whether or not you decide to QT corals is up to you and your level of risk aversion. Personally, I quarantine corals in a dedicated invert QT for 76 days, but I am super paranoid.

 

[Charley Diesing]

No, you can add corals. Whether or not you decide to QT corals is up to you and your level of risk aversion. Personally, I quarantine corals in a dedicated invert QT for 76 days, but I am super paranoid.

Since I live in an apartment having a long-term coral/invert + fish QT tank, isn't really an option.

So I can definitely have a short term QT setup for fish that I can setup/take down easily. But long term I really won't be able to do...

I understand whats "ideal". Ideal is having a fish room, with fish QT, fish hospital tank, and coral QT. All independent of the main system.

Question:

Yes/No answer.

Is it worth QTing fish while not QTing the corals?

If answer is no should I dip the fish? FW?

If answer is yes what QT method should I use?

 

[Triggerfish]

Questions:

What QT methods would you do for a couple of nano fish?

Is it worth QTing if I am not going to QT the corals?

copper or TTM
yes, if you acquire corals from a fishless system.

 

[Charley Diesing]

copper or TTM
yes, if you acquire corals from a fishless system.

And how would one accomplish that? lol...

 

[Triggerfish]

from a frag only tank possibly.

 

[Charley Diesing]

from a frag only tank possibly.

So from a hobbyist more than likely?

Most LFS's that I see almost always have fish in there. Usually to maintain algae, etc.

 

[Triggerfish]

So from a hobbyist more than likely?

Most LFS's that I see almost always have fish in there. Usually to maintain algae, etc.

more than likely, still a risk though as you can never be certain.
yes,, many lfs will have at least one fish in all their coral systems. and if not, was there ever any in there and if so how long ago. so everything is ultimately a risk. but not impossible.

 

[Charley Diesing]

more than likely, still a risk though as you can never be certain.
yes,, many lfs will have at least one fish in all their coral systems. and if not, was there ever any in there and if so how long ago. so everything is ultimately a risk. but not impossible.

Is this really a realistic solution?...

 

[Triggerfish]

probably only from someone you know that has a dedicated coral/frag only setup.
I get most of my frags from a coral farmer that has some fishless dedicated frag only tanks. so that is likely 'realistic'.

 

[ThRoewer]

With frags from other hobbyists the primary risk is ich. If you pick only ich resistant fish and cut the frag plugs off or just get freshly cut frags, you may be fine with just a series of dips and rinses.

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