QT New Yellow Tang

QT New Yellow Tang

  • YES!

    Votes: 12 92.3%
  • NO!

    Votes: 1 7.7%

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Kurt03

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Ok i just got a yellow tang the 3rd so ive had him about a week and he seems perfectly healthy. I watch him several times a day and i havent seen ich anywhere. Hes eating nori all the time and pellets when i give them to him. Im now debating on continuing with the original plan and putting him in hypo for a month, or just acclimating him to the new tank carefully. What would you do? I dont want to jepordise my main tank, but i dont want to keep him in qt anylonger then i have to. I know the lfs he was at had ich and recently treated with copper and everything there has been ich free for a while. (i know the person that does the saltwater there). Sooo my question to you is, what would you do?
 
treat with copper or hypo for sure, just because he doesn't show ich signs, doesn't mean he's ich free, it lives in the gills, only when it gets really bad do you see it on the body and fins..

edit: my lfs told me they QT with copper, i've learned i can't rely on that..
 
i know the person that works there and he did it himself.
Im still leaning to the hypo even though i want him in the main tank were im sure he will be much happier.
 
I don't mean to argue with you, if you're *certain* the fish doesn't carry anything, or if you're willing to take the risk, its up to you ofcourse, its your tank and I suspect you may have been doing this longer then me :)

But.. if they have added new fish since the treatment, or added corals to the tank the tang is in now, or even shared equipment between the tanks, they could have re-introduced that nasty parasite..

I NEVER want to have to break my tank down to catch them all again, I've learned my lesson, It's awful tempting to cut the qt period short, but he -should- be ok in the QT tank for 2 more weeks with copper right ?
 
I will keep the fish in Quarantine for four weeks with no treatment at all .
If no problems you can put him in the main tank then.
 
Being a tang master I will tell you to quarantine and treat with copper no matter what, unless you want losses down the road. Even if you don't see any parasites after four weeks without treatment doesn't mean that the fish is not harbouring ich. Tangs-as any fish-do have a degree of being able to live with a low grade infection until something overwelms them. Do you want to see your fish rubbing and being irritated by ich or other parasites for the forseable future? Next month-or next year- when you decide to add something else that you haven't quarantined you will be scrambling to find a false cure and will no doubt lose your fish. An expense and waste of livestock that is needless.

Learn from others and not on a novice learning curve- set up a quarantine tank for everything you put into your display! Remember it's not a sprint but a marathon- go the distance. In other words you may have two basic quarantine tanks set up, one for fish treated with copper, and one for rock, corals, or inverts. Start with the notion that anything you buy, or are given to you, are infected and need isolation. Look for used tanks, etc. to use, and when done put them back up for sale for the next person to use.

My new tank is 15 months old and I am on my last corals in isolation before they go into the display. My old tank has the last fish in it in copper. when I'm done they go up for sale.

everyone knows how to set up a quarantine tank, but not necessarilly how to treat. Over the years I have found that you need to use Cupramine and to test for copper levels EVERY DAY with a seachem copper test kit. You will find that you may need to add copper every day to maintain- and not any lower than- .05mg/l. Don't wory about overdosing so much as underdosing, but don't go over .07mg/l. Less than .05mg/l and you will lose the effective dose and not kill parasites.

Some may say to go hypo? It really is hard on the fish, they can go blind from not enough salinity and have problems with swim bladders. Unless you have a large enough tank, > 100 gallons, it will be impossible to maintain the recomended salinity level due to daily evaporation.

We all hate to lose livestock, not just because it costs money , because it means having to take another animal from an ocean that is losing diversity. For every fish that you have in you tank approximently 9 have been lost in the chain to market. Now you see why it is a good idea to go slow and do the right thing.
 
im thinking i will need some copper then. I was going to do hypo but wasnt sure if it was hard on them or not. Anyone else have an opinion on copper vs hypo?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8313878#post8313878 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kurt03
im thinking i will need some copper then. I was going to do hypo but wasnt sure if it was hard on them or not. Anyone else have an opinion on copper vs hypo?
Use the copper, and listen to my sad tale of woe.

A few weeks ago I bought a Powder Brown Tang. Put him in quarantine. Did hypo the 3 weeks. Raised tha salinity over another week. Looked great. Ate great. After 4 weeks total into the display he went.

Showed illness in two days. Pulled him and treated with copper. Got a larger Q tank for him and the other 5 fish that were exposed in the display. The Powder brown died on Sunday. On Monday morning the smaller clown died. On Monday evening the Yellow Tang died. The three remaining (a clown, a goby and a flame angel) all show what looks like velvet. They're in copper, but I fear too late. There's a good chance I'll see a total loss. All from a Tang that spent an insufficient time in quarantine. Three weeks hypo plus another week wasn't enough, expecially since hypo isn't effective against velvet. And he looked perfect for 4 weeks. Yet now all my fish are dead or dying.

If I were you, I'd do copper for 3 weeks, then phase out the copper and monitor closely for another 4 weeks. Really.
 
I prefer copper, it isn't exactly easy on them either, but its only 2 weeks, and I had trouble messing with buffers and crap to keep the ph up in a hypo tank.. cupramine has worked well for me so far ..
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8314179#post8314179 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kurt03
does copper treat for velvet too?
Yes, copper treats velvet. But velvet kills much more quickly than Ich. By the time it's obvious what you're up against, it might be too late. If I'd treated my Tang with copper (rather than hypo) before he was symptomatic, I might have avoided my mess.
 
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