QT setup help

Chriss614

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I have a 10 gallon I want to turn into a QT tank. I have an airstone, heater, and a aqeon carbon filter. Should I just sterilze everything with bleach and fill it with saltwater. Do I need to put a piece of LR from my DT in or is that a bad idea?

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White Vinegar and rinse well... would not put LR in the QT tank. Use PVC rings from HD for hiding places... Would use Dr Tims to start it along with water from your display tank. Keep in mind the good bacteria is on the surfaces of stuff not in the water...
 
You can bleach it, but make sure you rinse really well and let it air dry. For as the live rock you can use it to help with the cycle. Once the tank cycles I would take the live rock out and use PVC pipe. Reasoning, is that live rock may absorb any medicine if you have to treat the tank which can lead to false testing.
 
most medications will kill things living in/on the rock causing an ammonia spike, or like scooter said, it will absorb the medication. so it's not considered a good idea.

I'd just use ammonia to seed the filter (you can get a cheap bottle of it at ace hardware).. bacteria will naturally form to convert the ammonia, just test it, get it to about 1ppm is all you really need, let it hit 0 then add fish. Dr. Tim's method is overboard in my experience... but it does depend on bioload/filter size. if you let the ammonia sit at 0 for too long the bacteria will die... so re-dose as needed.

oh, also, I wouldn't use a carbon filter, as they remove meds. I'd use a Hang on the back style (I like the aquaclear or fluval).. get one rated much higher than your tank volume.. can't get one too big IMO.. iv'e used one rated for a 110 gallon tank on a 5.5 gallon, i turned the flow down to minimum.
 
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So I have a bit of an emergency that just emerged so I need the QT immediately. I only need to for my one pufferfish because he may have ich. Do you think its too risky to put him in without cycling?

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You can put him in there. I would recommend having a ammonia badge and some prime on hand and be ready to do water changes when necessary. What are you going to treat with?
 
You can put him in there. I would recommend having a ammonia badge and some prime on hand and be ready to do water changes when necessary. What are you going to treat with?
I asked in another thread already about what to use but havent gotten an answer. I have never treated ich. Any ideas? Do I need to treat my whole display to be safe?

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For filtration could I remove the carbon from my HOB filter and put this sponge thing I had laying around in? It seems like it would make a decent biological filter material.

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yes, you can use that for filtration. They also make ceramic ring things or bioballs you can put in there.. that's what I did with my HOB filter, removed the carbon and just have a sponge with ceramic rings in it.

Fallow means without fish.

-also if it is ich then all of your fish may be infected but not showing physical symptoms. If you don't remove all fish and let the display tank remain fallow for 90 days there is a good chance when you return the puffer he will just get it again. (most common place for ich to attach is in the gills, especially if the fish is otherwise healthy, you wont see them).

For 1 or 2 fish Tank Transfer Method is what most people here recommend.. once you get too many fish doing TTM can be difficult due to the size of the tanks needed to house them, or number. In that case Chloroquine phosphate is the 2nd preferred method.
 
yes, you can use that for filtration. They also make ceramic ring things or bioballs you can put in there.. that's what I did with my HOB filter, removed the carbon and just have a sponge with ceramic rings in it.

Fallow means without fish.

-also if it is ich then all of your fish may be infected but not showing physical symptoms. If you don't remove all fish and let the display tank remain fallow for 90 days there is a good chance when you return the puffer he will just get it again. (most common place for ich to attach is in the gills, especially if the fish is otherwise healthy, you wont see them).

For 1 or 2 fish Tank Transfer Method is what most people here recommend.. once you get too many fish doing TTM can be difficult due to the size of the tanks needed to house them, or number. In that case Chloroquine phosphate is the 2nd preferred method.
My puffer and clown(thats all my fish right now) are going into QT now. Everyone seems to recomend cupramine for treating ick. I might use this but some people said it is super dangerous for puffers, is this true? Id like to be treating for velvet too just in case.

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So I plan on using TTM and then treating the fish in QT. I have my 10 gallon QT setup with my filter with homemade bio media and an airstone. I have ghost fed the QT to hopefully get it to build some bacteria in the 12 days it will take to do the TTM. I will start the TTM later tonight probably. Once the fish are in QT I will treat with copper at .5 for 30 days and then leave the fish in QT until the tank has been fishless for 72 days. All that will be in the tank for the fallow period is a kenya tree, a trumpet, a BTA, a coral banded shrimp, an emerald crab, a hermit crab, and some snails with the live rock and sand. Does this all sound right? I have never done this before so I am a little nervous. Thanks for all the help!

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So I plan on using TTM and then treating the fish in QT. I have my 10 gallon QT setup with my filter with homemade bio media and an airstone. I have ghost fed the QT to hopefully get it to build some bacteria in the 12 days it will take to do the TTM. I will start the TTM later tonight probably. Once the fish are in QT I will treat with copper at .5 for 30 days and then leave the fish in QT until the tank has been fishless for 72 days. All that will be in the tank for the fallow period is a kenya tree, a trumpet, a BTA, a coral banded shrimp, an emerald crab, a hermit crab, and some snails with the live rock and sand. Does this all sound right? I have never done this before so I am a little nervous. Thanks for all the help!

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If you are dealing with ich, then cooper is not necessary, TTM will be effective. I do not like cooper and do not use it at all. IMO, it is too dangerous to use on the fish masks other parasites and illnesses.
 
If you are dealing with ich, then cooper is not necessary, TTM will be effective. I do not like cooper and do not use it at all. IMO, it is too dangerous to use on the fish masks other parasites and illnesses.
So you think I should skip copper? I am just conserned it may be marine velvet since they look similar.

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CP?

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Chloroquine Phosphate. We are in the same boat man. I misread another member and thought CP was Cupramine. So I started them on that only to find out they meant Chloroquine Phosphate.

You have to have a RX in order to get it. But I found a guy on eBay that gets his from Fishguy Chemicals. If you look on eBay hes the only one selling it right now. So I just put two carbon filter on my HOB to try and pull some of the copper out before I dose with CP.
 
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