QT Treatment plan

Okay then I probably will not do that. I was just thinking that the shipping will be fairly stressful for the fish so Id imagine they would show some signs
 
one of the the more overt symptom signs with the exception of the spots is rapid gill movement. it has been noted the gills are the first to get infected due to more water being passed through them.
 
one other point i should make, is a lot of the extreme prevention I take is due to the fact that I have a 450g with a lot of fish. i simply don't have the option of failure. were there situations I felt near 100% confident I could skip QT? Yes. I have even taken fish from people that I know had Ich-free tanks and still QT'ed the fish. The day Ich sneaks into my tank, I have no clue how I am going to house this many fish while running my DT fallow for 3 months... and then to TTM all of the fish, forget about it.

if you have a small enough tank (< 150g, IMO), then the ramification of Ich-failure is not that bad, just time consuming... assuming you don't lose fish over it, which isn't fair to the fish, but quick acting will fix that.

that said, as I mentioned, it is a gamble if you don't QT any specimens, anything wet. educated and non-impulsive decisions are where you are going to be on the winning side of the gamble. and at least you are asking questions now and will know how to react in case something goes wrong.

just remember, Vegas isn't paved in gold due to their shows and cheap buffets!
 
Would you say that theres a low risk of putting a mandarin goby, pipefish and leopard wrasse into the DT if they appear healthy? The tank is 72 gallon with 20 gallon sump. I would like to remain ich free but above all I want the fish to survive
 
"low risk" is a tough measurement. I mean, lower than a Tang? yes. lower than an invert? no. fish with thicker skin and thick slime coats, like Mandarin's or Clown's are the only that I would put in a low risk bucket, personally. the rest I categorize as "fish" in general when it comes to Ich.

and as i mentioned earlier, Ich isn't the only enemy here. you may be missing something much worse by observing for a short period of time.
 
my personal view is a greater chance of Ich coming in compared to the fish dieing during QT. especially with TTM, we are only dealing with 12 days, and then you can get them into a more appropriate temporary setup for the remainder of the QT period. and you can keep sand and dose ammonia detox's during the TTM time (if needed).

copper may give a more toss-up answer given sensitivities and the 4-week required period.
 
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