Quick review of DCS12000 pump

DBR_reef

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So I got the new Jeboa/Jecod DCS12000 pump as an energy efficient alternative to an AC pump and thought I would give a short review in case anyone else is thinking about making the move. I know that DC pumps are not necessarily any more efficient than AC pumps, but being able to control flow with a controller vs using a valve to throttle the pump back is an effective increase in efficiency. This Jeboa pump is (maybe) replacing an Iwaki MD-55RT, so a pretty high bar.

Noise: not silent but fairly quiet and a lot quieter than the old AC pump. A phone decibel meter can't really pick it up, but there is a high pitched hum though.

Efficiency: I don't have an accurate way to measure power usage, but it says 80w max, and I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt as I don't have a very accurate way of measuring wattage. The apex says it is using 96w at full tilt, so it is in the same ball park. That's a lot less than the 192w of the Iwaki.

Quality: I've been running it one day, but it seems like decent quality- not great, but decent. From what I've heard keeping an extra controller around is a smart idea.

Flow: Jeboa lies like a cheap rug. I have a calculated head of 13 ft, which with the Iwaki pump should have gotten me 850GPH. But I had the pump dialed back by at least 50%, so say I had 500GPH (probably more like 3-400). The Jeboa claims that at 13ft of head I should be getting ~1000 GPH! But at full tilt it does not even keep up with what the Iwaki was throttled back to. So it looks like you can expect about half the flow claimed. Not great, so if you like high flow through your sump or run a manifold with a lot of gear this may not be the pump for you.

I'm going to keep using it, but I would have been a LOT happier if they had provided reasonable flow estimates. I was actually worried I was going to have too much flow at the minimum setting :/

A quick note: I am running it externally, which Jeboa says not to do, probably because the seals are not high quality, however it is not leaking and it is barely warm to the touch, so I think it can be done as long as the damage caused by any potential leak is minimal.
 
Great little pumps so far (two months). I don't think I'm getting the stated flow either. I have the 6500 and it's rated at 1,700 gph. My overflow box is rated at 600 gph and with 4' of head and full power the overflow box handles it fine. Pump should be putting out 1,000 gph 4' of head.
 
In addition to missing phone number/support info on their website, Jebao has a bad rep for longevity. With that said, don't expect anything in the manual to be accurate.
 
why did you buy a old version.
dcp is the new one. and do you have a AMERICAN Verison or a china one. This is the downfall of jebao...

people are selling not to be sold in America pumps on ebay and amazon.. If you cant read the label on the pump Send it back and file a complaint..

Everyone is going to say they are crap based on the people who come on here and complain. the thing is we really do not know the failure rate since we do not know how many have been sold. since they are so popular and wide spread i bet the there are more out then then we even can imagine. there for reducing the failure rate.. more people complain about them online because they bought from a non reputable seller.

my opinion.... but it has logic
 
why did you buy a old version.
dcp is the new one. and do you have a AMERICAN Verison or a china one. This is the downfall of jebao...

people are selling not to be sold in America pumps on ebay and amazon.. If you cant read the label on the pump Send it back and file a complaint..

Everyone is going to say they are crap based on the people who come on here and complain. the thing is we really do not know the failure rate since we do not know how many have been sold. since they are so popular and wide spread i bet the there are more out then then we even can imagine. there for reducing the failure rate.. more people complain about them online because they bought from a non reputable seller.

my opinion.... but it has logic

No problem. I bought the US version. I don't think the pumps are crap, they appear better made than many items I have bought in this hobby- just not great quality. I didn't buy the new version because there are not many reviews yet and it did not appear to have any significant difference from the dcs, and I had not heard of anyone running a dcp externally. But I may order one and give it a try and see if there is any difference.
 
I did almost a month ago buy a dcp-8000...

Its the new sine wave version.the housing is thicker and the controller does not get hot like on the older ones.. its adjustable in 1% increments from 30 to 100 %, i am running mine at 70% and it says its drawing 50w of power ( i have not tested to confirm yet) my tester is lost in my work van.. will locate it soon. I hope.. My van might be eating tools..

Anyway so far so good. i plumbed it internal but my old pump is still plumbed in case it fails..

fingers crossed..
 
Quality of these pumps seems dodgy to me. Just have a 'plan' for when it craps out on you. Maybe it won't, and will outlast you in the hobby, but have a plan just in case.

Iwaki is indeed a high bar. My old 40 ran continuously for 20 years. Now THAT's longevity for you.
 
I actually have the DCP and not the DCS. Mine has the digital readout and you can adjust the power in 1% increments. Strange part is that the controller doesn't say "sine wave" like others that I've seen. I got mine on ebay.

I'm contemplating using the DCP 10,000 on my 115g build but haven't decided yet. I do like the price of this pump and that it doesn't take up precious floor place under the tank.
 
I have an older DCT and it runs like a champ. However, I notice over time as they get dirty the output will decrease. I don't have a high pitch whine at any speed. I still think it's a matter of some people can hear things others can't and there are tones that some can't hear while others hear it and find it annoying.

I've had mine for 9 months and I clean it every month and still running like a champ. Sometimes you just gotta ignore the haters. You'll notice over and over that the same people complain in threads.

I mean clearly they are trying to fix the issues as many times as the model versions changed last year alone. I don't regret buying my DCT4000 or my powerhead/wavemakers.
 
I actually have the DCP and not the DCS. Mine has the digital readout and you can adjust the power in 1% increments. Strange part is that the controller doesn't say "sine wave" like others that I've seen. I got mine on ebay.

I'm contemplating using the DCP 10,000 on my 115g build but haven't decided yet. I do like the price of this pump and that it doesn't take up precious floor place under the tank.

The pump you have was NOT supposed to have been sold in the USA.From my reading on Fishstreet.com and few other forums this is the reason these pumps are failing there is something different in the electronics ... So they say. I also read the controller with sine wave written on it was heavier.. I know mine seems to have some type of solid heat sink or something in it..but it does not get even slighty warm as some have said there controller is getting hot..

The writing on the us pump is in english as well

The above is only from what i have read i have no direct proof either way .But why else would the controller look different
 
The pump you have was NOT supposed to have been sold in the USA.From my reading on Fishstreet.com and few other forums this is the reason these pumps are failing there is something different in the electronics ... So they say. I also read the controller with sine wave written on it was heavier.. I know mine seems to have some type of solid heat sink or something in it..but it does not get even slighty warm as some have said there controller is getting hot..

The writing on the us pump is in english as well

The above is only from what i have read i have no direct proof either way .But why else would the controller look different

would you say these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N48UDBY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 are the true DCP pumps?
 


Yes . you can compare them to here ..


http://www.fish-street.com/jebao-dcp-sine-wave-water-return-pump-nj-delivery


Remember this is just from what i have noticed .Not really sure internals are different or if fish street is just trying to discredit other sellers.. i know the sticker and writing on controller is different so there must be something to it..
 
The pump you have was NOT supposed to have been sold in the USA.From my reading on Fishstreet.com and few other forums this is the reason these pumps are failing there is something different in the electronics ... So they say. I also read the controller with sine wave written on it was heavier.. I know mine seems to have some type of solid heat sink or something in it..but it does not get even slighty warm as some have said there controller is getting hot..

The writing on the us pump is in english as well

The above is only from what i have read i have no direct proof either way .But why else would the controller look different

I need another pump so I'll order one of those off Amazon and see if I can tell any difference between the two.
 
I am planning a new 220g build after being out for a couple years. I really like the looks of these DCP pumps compared to my old power-hungry Blue Line external.

A few questions....

Is it safe to run these external?

Do standard 1 1/4" fittings work OK?

How do they handle power failures? I worry if I use the pump at say 70%, tune my overflow to that level, and then have a power failure, it will come back at 100% and make a mess.

Thanks...
 
Most of the people I know have jebao return pumps for four years, three years, the DC, DCT and never ever found a problem! Every time the jebao name comes up is always the same people who take it down! Is there a guilty pleasure in doing that! I believe nowadays at least 70% have jebao return pumps without any problem! But in these threads the same people bash about something they never had!
 
I am planning a new 220g build after being out for a couple years. I really like the looks of these DCP pumps compared to my old power-hungry Blue Line external.

A few questions....

Is it safe to run these external?

Do standard 1 1/4" fittings work OK?

How do they handle power failures? I worry if I use the pump at say 70%, tune my overflow to that level, and then have a power failure, it will come back at 100% and make a mess.

Thanks...

I have read people say they run them externally with no issues. I have done so testing mine before i put into my sump . but it was only for like 10 minutes or so .

The fittings that come with it are slip glue fittings that will do 3/4 1 inch and 1 1/2 inch.. But above i posted image on how you can make your own 1 1/2 slip fitting very easily
 
Most of the people I know have jebao return pumps for four years, three years, the DC, DCT and never ever found a problem! Every time the jebao name comes up is always the same people who take it down! Is there a guilty pleasure in doing that! I believe nowadays at least 70% have jebao return pumps without any problem! But in these threads the same people bash about something they never had!



I agree with this for the most part.. As a nature of the internet we see more people looking for help me fix then Hey this is a great product.. With that said i think there is legit quality control . maybe even with batches of these products..

There are far more with long term use without issues then those with issues is my opinion....
 
I am planning a new 220g build after being out for a couple years. I really like the looks of these DCP pumps compared to my old power-hungry Blue Line external.

A few questions....

Is it safe to run these external?

Do standard 1 1/4" fittings work OK?

How do they handle power failures? I worry if I use the pump at say 70%, tune my overflow to that level, and then have a power failure, it will come back at 100% and make a mess.

Thanks...

External- I can only comment on the 12000- I would say yes. But others have told me the lower number DCS pumps cannot be- only the 12000- I have no idea on them.

Fittings- No, but it comes with fittings- I think there is a version with US fittings, but I do not remember which one.

Power failure- they remember the setting
 
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