Quietest in-sump return pump?

I have a quiet one 3000, can't hear it over my skimmer pump, bubble magus nac 5.
and i have it sof plumbed to reduce vibration from the pump. what i have found with a lot of internal pumps is that if they come with barb fittings, then you best use vinyl on the outlet, run it for a coulple feet, then you can connect to pvc from there, this will reduce the vibration transfered from the pump through the pvc. if you hard plumb all the way, you won't be happy, unless you have a fish room.

I tried sicce, and queit one 3000 hard plumbed, quickly changed it.
 
A second vote for a tunze silence. I really cannot hear it at all, even on start up. Plus the tunze reliablility and service cannot be beat!
 
I have a mag 9.5 on a 72gal bow front with a Glass-holes.com 700gph overflow box and its its about the only thing thats loud in my sump anymore. I am tempted to get a eheim 1260
 
Sicce/ tunze are the best return pumps out now. Sicce 3.0 is the best return on the market... a lot better than the ehiem
 
Instead of one bigger Dart or something I use two Eheim 1262 returns. My Koralias are louder than my Eheims.

Love Eheim pumps they seem to never go bad. One of my returns has been going for about 7 years now. It's been run dry a couple times. Once it was running dry for about an hour. That was a few years ago...still just as solid and silent as the other newer one. QUALITY! I wish my skimmer pump was an Eheim.
 
Also look for reliability, I have a Eheim 1262 on a 120gallon for 10 years now.
Highly recommend it.
 
I used a Sicce 5 for a return pump for 6 months before replacing it with a Flowstar. The Sicce was a loud vibrating piece of junk. I have a SWC 180 with a Sicce 2500. Another piece of junk. Pump was shot after 8 months. With both these pumps I contacted Sicce and got ZERO help. The Flowstar is great.
 
I used a Sicce 5 for a return pump for 6 months before replacing it with a Flowstar. The Sicce was a loud vibrating piece of junk. I have a SWC 180 with a Sicce 2500. Another piece of junk. Pump was shot after 8 months. With both these pumps I contacted Sicce and got ZERO help. The Flowstar is great.

We are talking about the sicce 2 and 3. I heard bad things about 4 and up.

I use a sicce 3 and it silent.
 
Another vote for the Tunze Silence, I've used about all the Eheim pumps and although they are pretty quiet, they are not dead silent like the Tunze Silence 1073.05, IME.
 
I used a Sicce 5 for a return pump for 6 months before replacing it with a Flowstar. The Sicce was a loud vibrating piece of junk. I have a SWC 180 with a Sicce 2500. Another piece of junk. Pump was shot after 8 months. With both these pumps I contacted Sicce and got ZERO help. The Flowstar is great.


+1 on the Sicce. I have just not had good luck with them. I really liked the threaded in/outs on the smaller ones. High hopes faded fast.
 
I put a Sicce 5 in my 150.....may have been overkill. Very efficient and strong, they are known to last......but the vibration noise is there enough that I may move on to a different model.
 
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