rjwilson37
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Those soft polyps look like Anthelia's which are a type of Xenia.
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rdmpe
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First one - I can't find any pictures of majano/mojano that look like this guy. Here's what all of the pictures I find look like
http://www.saltvannsakvariet.no/anemonia_majano.htm
http://www.melevsreef.com/pics/bta/not/majano.html
Some of the rock anemone pictures that google turned up seem like they could be similar, but mine is so much smaller that it's hard to tell.
To me it looks like it has some sort of hard or bony structure that it withdraws into during the day. Also, niether of the two has moved at all as far as I know FWIW.
http://www.saltvannsakvariet.no/anemonia_majano.htm
http://www.melevsreef.com/pics/bta/not/majano.html
Some of the rock anemone pictures that google turned up seem like they could be similar, but mine is so much smaller that it's hard to tell.
To me it looks like it has some sort of hard or bony structure that it withdraws into during the day. Also, niether of the two has moved at all as far as I know FWIW.
rdmpe
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Yeah, I googled anthelia images and I think that's what the second item is. The first one, still not sure. I've been watching them closely. Do anemonies have any hard structure to them? I thought they were all soft. I may lightly touch this thing with a round rubber tipped feeding rod just to get an idea if it has a hard structure to it...
shane 1111
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no they dont. it is a hard coral. like a geto sun coral.
i will try to find out what it is. i will post it on my thread whear you asked the question,
whear is that rock from? Florida rock?
i will try to find out what it is. i will post it on my thread whear you asked the question,
whear is that rock from? Florida rock?
rdmpe
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I bought the rock from a local reefer Rock455. I'm not sure where he got it, maybe he will chime in. He had it in a tank for a couple of years I think. It seems like it may have some radial fin type structure to it, almost like a plate coral. But it's so tiny I can't really see enough details. I have two of them that I know of, both look exactly the same as far as I can tell. The way the rock is now arranged, one is getting direct light from a MH about 12" from the water surface, the other (pictured above) is under an overhang and doesn't get direct light from the MH. So it will be interesting to see how these develop.
Sindjin
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Hello Randy!
On your heat issue... do you have fans blowing into your canopy?
I have 2 4.5" fans blowing air into my canopy from either side. The air flows right under my MH's. In addition, I have 2 A?C return vents (12"x5") on the top of canopy so the heat can rise.
Believe it or not , running my MH's (2 x 250w) for a 7 hour period doesnt raise my tank temperature. What is the temp of the tank when all lights are off?
On your heat issue... do you have fans blowing into your canopy?
I have 2 4.5" fans blowing air into my canopy from either side. The air flows right under my MH's. In addition, I have 2 A?C return vents (12"x5") on the top of canopy so the heat can rise.
Believe it or not , running my MH's (2 x 250w) for a 7 hour period doesnt raise my tank temperature. What is the temp of the tank when all lights are off?
rdmpe
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My light is not in a canopy, it's currently sitting on some 2x4's over the tank. The tank is open top - no canopy. But I think fans blowing across the top of the display would still help.
The glass bottom of the light fixture is about 5" off the water surface. I think this is a bit closer than normal?
Before the lights com on, my tank is usually around 80.5 or so. The MH are only running for 2 hrs at a time right now. After 2 hrs of MH, the temp is at about 82.0.
But this is with basically no fans blowing on the water surface. Hopefully once I get that set up it will help offset the heat input from the MH.
The glass bottom of the light fixture is about 5" off the water surface. I think this is a bit closer than normal?
Before the lights com on, my tank is usually around 80.5 or so. The MH are only running for 2 hrs at a time right now. After 2 hrs of MH, the temp is at about 82.0.
But this is with basically no fans blowing on the water surface. Hopefully once I get that set up it will help offset the heat input from the MH.
UnderwaterExotic
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The 1st pic, im not sure if anyone ID or not yet, but it is called a Hidden Cup Coral (Phyllangia americana) Hope That Helps!!
marduc
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hmm, those cup corals look quite familiar.. common on florida aquacultured rock, I have several on my TBS rock, which has been in my tank for over 4 years now, they don't really seem to grow or reproduce, but they are cool, long-lived, and don't really seem to bother anything
The "clam" you posted pics of opening and closing is probably a "Turkey Wing" which is a common hitchiker on Fl. LR... I had quite a few of both "Turkey Wing" and Jewel box clams on my LR initially (they died off over a year or two's time though). When they were around it made it tough to aquascape since I would stack my LR, and then notice that the rocks would heave up and down occasionally due to one of the mollusks opening and closing, but otherwise they are'nt bad.. they will help to filter some of the water as long as they are alive.
here is a helpful reference for ya to help identify some of your LR hitchhikers:
TBS critter identifier
The "clam" you posted pics of opening and closing is probably a "Turkey Wing" which is a common hitchiker on Fl. LR... I had quite a few of both "Turkey Wing" and Jewel box clams on my LR initially (they died off over a year or two's time though). When they were around it made it tough to aquascape since I would stack my LR, and then notice that the rocks would heave up and down occasionally due to one of the mollusks opening and closing, but otherwise they are'nt bad.. they will help to filter some of the water as long as they are alive.
here is a helpful reference for ya to help identify some of your LR hitchhikers:
TBS critter identifier
rdmpe
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Hey marduc - thanks for that link. Shane1111 had sent me a link to that on his tank thread, but I didn't realize what it was - I just saw that first red anemone picture and thought that was what shane was showing me. He must've thought he was linking to the cup coral pic...
Anyway, I once saw a really hairy looking crab in my tank also. Now I think it was a gorilla crab, which TBS says I should remove. What do I do with bad critters? I hate to kill them. I'd rather drop them off in the indian river or the beach or something...
Anyway, I once saw a really hairy looking crab in my tank also. Now I think it was a gorilla crab, which TBS says I should remove. What do I do with bad critters? I hate to kill them. I'd rather drop them off in the indian river or the beach or something...
rjwilson37
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My tank runs 80 to 81 at night and 82-83 during the day and I have 2 4.5" fans in the canopy with my lights 10" from the water. A 2 degree is typical during the first 2 to 3 hours of the lights coming on, I am sure the ocean water heats up a little in the reef area when the sun comes poping out after about 3 hours, I am sure the corals are use to this.
rdmpe
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I hope so... I still don't have any fans set up. Today I bumped the MH time up by 1/2 hour so now they all run for 2.5 hours. But the start and end times are staggered by 1/2 hour so it's sort of like the sun coming up on one side and then going over to the other side 
Right now, all three lights have been on for an hour together, and the temp is up to 81.8. I may actually hit 83 today... I really need to get some fans set up blowing on the water, and an auto topoff to deal with all of that evap.
I moved the lights up another 1.5". Not sure how much that will help. But I don't want to bring the light up too much bacause it will end up with bright light missing the tank and just shining into the room...
Right now, all three lights have been on for an hour together, and the temp is up to 81.8. I may actually hit 83 today... I really need to get some fans set up blowing on the water, and an auto topoff to deal with all of that evap.
I moved the lights up another 1.5". Not sure how much that will help. But I don't want to bring the light up too much bacause it will end up with bright light missing the tank and just shining into the room...
rdmpe
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Well, it got up to 82.8 I think. The lights went off at 7:30 but it is not cooling down very fast. It's still at 82.0 at 11 PM. Earlier today I swapped out the Tarpon return pump for a Dart return pump just to see how it would work. So I have a Dart on the CL and a Dart on the sump return. I'm not sure if the Dart adds more heat than the Tarpon, but I suspect maybe it does. The motor casing of the Tarpon runs cooler than the Dart.
shane 1111
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that is what i was thinking.
for it to grow you have to feed it. no food = no growth
target feeding will bost its growth
shane 1111
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it wasent on the cup coral pic. darn it. well it was late.
rdmpe
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Speaking of feeding, I could really use some guidance on how much to feed. Keeping in mind my 180g with only minimal inverts (not a tank full of corals)...
Inverts -
I have been feeding invert food a couple of times a week. A mix of about 1/4 cube of frozen ocean nutrition forumla invert food and about 1/8 teaspoon of coral vibrance (like cyclopeze?). That isn't really much, but I don't have that many inverts/corals in the tank so I'm trying not to overfeed. I'm basically trying to feed xenia, tiny feather dusters, the two little cup corals, and whatever else is on the LR that I don't know about. Am I starving everything in my tank???
Fish -
The only fish I have right now is a clownfish. It seems to pick at mysis but always seems to spit it back out. I'm not sure how much it is actually eating of mysis. It loves flake food. It also goes after the larger chunks of the green frozen invert food. Will the clownfish start eating mysis or shoudl I try other things?
Inverts -
I have been feeding invert food a couple of times a week. A mix of about 1/4 cube of frozen ocean nutrition forumla invert food and about 1/8 teaspoon of coral vibrance (like cyclopeze?). That isn't really much, but I don't have that many inverts/corals in the tank so I'm trying not to overfeed. I'm basically trying to feed xenia, tiny feather dusters, the two little cup corals, and whatever else is on the LR that I don't know about. Am I starving everything in my tank???
Fish -
The only fish I have right now is a clownfish. It seems to pick at mysis but always seems to spit it back out. I'm not sure how much it is actually eating of mysis. It loves flake food. It also goes after the larger chunks of the green frozen invert food. Will the clownfish start eating mysis or shoudl I try other things?
rdmpe
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ANOTHER ID REQUEST
ANOTHER ID REQUEST
Well the first two ID requests were a big success. I even managed to figure out a few other things in the tank.
So here is something that I want to find out more about. I think it is a leather coral, but I am really not sure if I remember that correctly. I'm afraid that it is deteriorating some. It seems to have shrunk in size, like it's pulling away from the pieces of rock that it was on or something. So here it is...
ID Request #3
Here it is when opened:
And here it is when it is closed up:
ANOTHER ID REQUEST
Well the first two ID requests were a big success. I even managed to figure out a few other things in the tank.
So here is something that I want to find out more about. I think it is a leather coral, but I am really not sure if I remember that correctly. I'm afraid that it is deteriorating some. It seems to have shrunk in size, like it's pulling away from the pieces of rock that it was on or something. So here it is...
ID Request #3
Here it is when opened:
And here it is when it is closed up:
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