Randy's Red Haddoni
- Thread starter Randy Holmes-Farley
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If you have an extra LR you may want to temporarily place it between the haddoni and the crispa.
Good advice. I just added it. I actually had to go back to work for an hour this afternoon, and I had my daughter check periodically with instructions that she should call me right away if it moves substantially, especially toward the crispa.
Don't be surprised if you loose a lot of your fish to it in time. I remember all the purple tangs Larry Jax's haddoni ate.
Yes, I expect I might. I've read a lot of thread here about them eating fish. I added a night light to try to limit night time accidents. The only fish loss that would really upset the family (and maybe the tank) is the cowfish. He is usually very careful where he goes, but I saw him accidently bump it once already, but he easily swam away.
I am curious as to why the salinity was so low when you brought it home though. Was it done on purpose, or was that the water from the store?
Store water. It might have been 30 ppt since I just rechecked my meter and it was reading a tad low, but it was a lot lower than my tank.
Good advice. I just added it. I actually had to go back to work for an hour this afternoon, and I had my daughter check periodically with instructions that she should call me right away if it moves substantially, especially toward the crispa.
Don't be surprised if you loose a lot of your fish to it in time. I remember all the purple tangs Larry Jax's haddoni ate.
Yes, I expect I might. I've read a lot of thread here about them eating fish. I added a night light to try to limit night time accidents. The only fish loss that would really upset the family (and maybe the tank) is the cowfish. He is usually very careful where he goes, but I saw him accidently bump it once already, but he easily swam away.
I am curious as to why the salinity was so low when you brought it home though. Was it done on purpose, or was that the water from the store?
Store water. It might have been 30 ppt since I just rechecked my meter and it was reading a tad low, but it was a lot lower than my tank.
It seems to be squinched up on one side (rock side), and is creating a sand mound against the column on the other, so I expect the foot is pushing down into the sand (although I don't know if the squinching has any relation to that).
How long have you had the fox coral?
Many years. More than 10. I've fragged it a few times, but not in the last few years. It was one of my first corals, and probably was my first hard coral.
eek are those gsp touching the nem?
Problem, you think? I asked in another thread before I placed it, but could still block them. FWIW, as the haddoni expanded this afternoon it simply flowed over the GSP and didn't seem to react at all.
Must have set you back a few $.
Yes and no. My wife said it was a lot.
Jay had it listed for $300, and the BRS discount dropped it to $270, no tax, no shipping, but no Divers Den guarantee either.
How long have you had the fox coral?
Many years. More than 10. I've fragged it a few times, but not in the last few years. It was one of my first corals, and probably was my first hard coral.
eek are those gsp touching the nem?
Problem, you think? I asked in another thread before I placed it, but could still block them. FWIW, as the haddoni expanded this afternoon it simply flowed over the GSP and didn't seem to react at all.
Must have set you back a few $.
Yes and no. My wife said it was a lot.
Jay had it listed for $300, and the BRS discount dropped it to $270, no tax, no shipping, but no Divers Den guarantee either.
Toddrtrex
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13432881#post13432881 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Randy Holmes-Farley
It seems to be squinched up on one side (rock side), and is creating a sand mound against the column on the other, so I expect the foot is pushing down into the sand (although I don't know if the squinching has any relation to that).
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Yes and no. My wife said it was a lot.
Are the rocks next to it fairly stable? All of mine moved rocks while getting their foot settled in. They are slow but very powerful.
Dang, that is a great price. My blue one was about that much when I got it from Diver's Den.
Haddonisreef
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That what i paied for mine so glade to see that it didnt run to much!
ReeferMedic
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[i Must have set you back a few $.
Yes and no. My wife said it was a lot.
Not bad at all for a red carpet. The first one I saw sold for $600.
puter
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Hi Randy, :wavehand:
Congrats on the new acquisition!
I'd encourage you to pay particular attention to Todd's question as my experience mimics his:
Mark
Congrats on the new acquisition!
I'd encourage you to pay particular attention to Todd's question as my experience mimics his:
They don't do it quickly, but I've been very surprised at how much rock they can shove around. IME, rock is more important than sand in getting them to settle somewhere.
Mark
Are the rocks next to it fairly stable?
Yes, they are very large and stable, at least best as I can tell.
How about that long horn cow,has he/she ever nipped at anything?
It has never bothered anything that I could tell, except some zooanthids that I put at its end of the tank, which it ate all of. One time it kept picking up a hermit crab by the shell, but it never got in. I expect it has eaten some small inverts, but that's life an a working ecosystem.
Also, if stressed,will the toxin affect inverts/anemones
or just fish(God forbid!!!)
Before I got this one, and its predecessor that I also had for a few years, I searched all though RC looking for anyone with first or even second hand exdperience with such a scenario,, and I could not find a single person that had a toxin release event. I've still not encountered such a person or thread. That doesn't meant it cannot happen, but I suspect the risks are overblown.
That said, it is something the whole family is aware of, and we keep an eye on it. IT is also by far our favorite fish. All the other fish scare easily, while it swims over and interacts with us anytime we get near the tank. I typically hand feed him chunks of food, although I've become a little more wary of his mouth as he has gotten bigger.
IMO, the biggest issue with them is the size they get too. They get quite bit.
Yes, they are very large and stable, at least best as I can tell.
How about that long horn cow,has he/she ever nipped at anything?
It has never bothered anything that I could tell, except some zooanthids that I put at its end of the tank, which it ate all of. One time it kept picking up a hermit crab by the shell, but it never got in. I expect it has eaten some small inverts, but that's life an a working ecosystem.
Also, if stressed,will the toxin affect inverts/anemones
or just fish(God forbid!!!)
Before I got this one, and its predecessor that I also had for a few years, I searched all though RC looking for anyone with first or even second hand exdperience with such a scenario,, and I could not find a single person that had a toxin release event. I've still not encountered such a person or thread. That doesn't meant it cannot happen, but I suspect the risks are overblown.
That said, it is something the whole family is aware of, and we keep an eye on it. IT is also by far our favorite fish. All the other fish scare easily, while it swims over and interacts with us anytime we get near the tank. I typically hand feed him chunks of food, although I've become a little more wary of his mouth as he has gotten bigger.
IMO, the biggest issue with them is the size they get too. They get quite bit.
Could be a problem. I would move those polyps away from the nem.
OK, I'll watch that interaction closely and do something if necessary. The polyps are easily moved from there, but I could block them with a rock, or scrape them off the large rock with a tool of some sort.
My blue one was about that much when I got it from Diver's Den.
I too tried a blue from Divers Den a year or two ago, but it died a few days after arrival. Luckily, it was within the guarantee.
OK, I'll watch that interaction closely and do something if necessary. The polyps are easily moved from there, but I could block them with a rock, or scrape them off the large rock with a tool of some sort.
My blue one was about that much when I got it from Diver's Den.
I too tried a blue from Divers Den a year or two ago, but it died a few days after arrival. Luckily, it was within the guarantee.
Today it looks pretty similar to late yesterday, but more expanded. It is now 11" across.
Here's a photo:
Here's a photo:
Consensus on first feeding is maybe tomorrow?
There does not appear to be any noticeable effect where the GSP and the hadonni touch, but I'm still watching it.
Mouth is still open. The foot seems to have pushed more down into the sand, but some is still visible on the rock. No detectable sideways or front to back movement overnight, however.
There does not appear to be any noticeable effect where the GSP and the hadonni touch, but I'm still watching it.
Mouth is still open. The foot seems to have pushed more down into the sand, but some is still visible on the rock. No detectable sideways or front to back movement overnight, however.
elegance coral
They call me EC
I would feel better if it started closing it's mouth. The longer it stays like that, the more concerned I become.
If that anemone is 11' across now, it will easily be 15 to 16' when fully expanded.
If that anemone is 11' across now, it will easily be 15 to 16' when fully expanded.
Thanks. Aside from being concerned, is there anything that would be useful to do about it?
Good to hear. Thanks. 
elegance coral
They call me EC
There are probably as many methods for bringing an anemone through this period as there are anemone keepers.
For me, I believe that keeping the environment as clean as possible is the most important. These anemones have spent hours or days under horrible conditions. Very little water in shipping bags, low oxygen, low PH, no light, growing microbial populations, and their own body fluids may become a hazard in shipping bags. It seems obvious to me that when these anemones withdraw and open their mouths they are attempting to rid themselves of some offencive substance. If this is true, removing this substance from the environment would be crucial to the anemones survival. If the anemone reinflated with water that is lased with the substance it is trying to rid itself of, it would only prolong the animals stress. If the anemone is discharging microbes, enzymes produced my microbes, its own digestive fluids, dead zooxanthellae, or even its own damaged cells, we would not be able to detect it with standard aquarium test kits. It has also been documented that a struggling newly introduced anemone can spread their problems to healthy, well established anemones in the same system. For these reasons I step up water changes during this period. Some people will argue that water changes will only stress the anemone further. I also greatly increase activated carbon use and skim wet.
If the anemone "crashes" (withdraws greatly and gapes it's mouth open) I do as large a water change as I can as soon as I notice the crash. This way the water the anemone reinflates with will be as clean as I can provide.
You will get conflicting opinions on this, so I wish you the best of luck trying to figure out how to bring your anemone through this time.
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