Red Bug plan, Input please

[weege1]

OK so I got them, actually had then for about year now…

I'm finally going to try the treatment but want to use Borneman's treatment plan found below, reason is I have to problem with quarantining everything for the treatment to save the biodiversity in the tank. I just don’t want to kill every crustation in the tank if I don't need to.

http://www.ericborneman.com/Tegastes-content/Treatment.html

Luckily all my Acros can are not that large yet and can be pulled from the display without any problems.

I have a spare MH lamp to put over the tank as well. No skimmer but I should be fine since it will only be about 8 days out or the display and water changes will be made as per protocol.

So the plan is to throw all the Acros in a 30g breeder and treat according to the article specifications. I will leave the tank without acros for 8 days rather than the 5 that is recommended. My questions are as follows:

1. Has anyone used this method and were you successful?

2. Can I leave the Monti's, Pocillopora's in the display? I would think the Manti's are 100% OK to leave behind as well as Pici's as well. I have been also told that Milli's are ok too but I will play it safe and pull them as well.

If there is anything I missed or if you have any other input please do chime in :-D

Thanks in advance.
Lou

 

[PnoyReefeR]

IME I did Redbug treatment to my tank month 1/2 ago. I saw one on my stag and got paranoid and treated the whole tank with Interceptor. Good and Bad came out from it..
The bad part is after I did the treatment I start growing some HA and byropsis it almost got undercontrol but got me a Foxface and Im doing good so far.
The good news is that I haven't had any redbugs in my tank. Trust me I checked them evernight with a flaslight =).

The only reason why I did the whole tank treatment is I am not sure if I only had RB on one of my sps and dont want to keep treating it if I miss one that has one on it.

Just sharing my experience...

HTH
steve

 

[weege1]

Thanks for the input, I only see the bugs on a few of the acros the others I don't see them on. However I will still treat everything but really want to quarantine to do so. I just don't feel comfortable treating the entire tank if there are other less intrusive methods available.

Anyone try this method? Any input on your results?

 

[blstravler]

In my experience I have done the in tank treatment twice over the past few years. And it is the safest bet, if you have the smallest piece of incrusted acro ANYWHERE in your tank you take the chance of not killing them all off. I think you know the down side if this though.

Both times I had them they were 100% gone, each time I did a treat on the tank every 10 days 3 times.....

Well I have them again now and due to medical reasons I can't treat my tank and to be 100% honest I don't want to nuke everything else in my tank so I am going to try a few different things like natural predators that I have seen work for others. Given in time if I see nasty side effects I will do the treatment again but for now things still look great.

If you have been living them with for a year and things are okay, why treat? Maybe you are doing something in your tank that we can all learn from to further be able to live with the red bugs...

 

[weege1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8171850#post8171850 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by blstravler
In my experience I have done the in tank treatment twice over the past few years. And it is the safest bet, if you have the smallest piece of incrusted acro ANYWHERE in your tank you take the chance of not killing them all off. I think you know the down side if this though.

Both times I had them they were 100% gone, each time I did a treat on the tank every 10 days 3 times.....

Well I have them again now and due to medical reasons I can't treat my tank and to be 100% honest I don't want to nuke everything else in my tank so I am going to try a few different things like natural predators that I have seen work for others. Given in time if I see nasty side effects I will do the treatment again but for now things still look great.

If you have been living them with for a year and things are okay, why treat? Maybe you are doing something in your tank that we can all learn from to further be able to live with the red bugs...

I never treated because I was never comfortable with the idea. But with this new method I decided I would give it a try.

My acros seem fine the tri colors are a little faded but the rest are ok. Growth is also good. My thought is how good would the colors are growth be if they were eradicated? That is why I want to give it a try, just not in the display...

 

[SaraB]

I treated my Acro's in QT. It is recommended that you do the 3 treatments a week apart, so that means that you should leave the Acro's in QT for a minimum of 2 weeks. The Monti's and Pocillopora's will not get Red Bugs. Yes, they like Milli's as they are an Acro and need to go into QT for the treatments.

 

[blstravler]

Out of interest-

What type of bulbs do you use?

 

[SaraB]

For the QT tank I have 1-250 Watt SE 6500 and 2-65 Watt Power Compacts.

 

[weege1]

Sara B

Interesting that you still did three treatments and left them in quarantine for two weeks.

The article states that one maybe two doses (at a higher dose and longer period since we are in quarantine) and then inspect.. Then leave the corals in quarantine for 5 days (I was planning 8) and inspect again prior to putting in the display.

Where did you read those recommendations?

Thanks for you input :-D

 

[weege1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8171939#post8171939 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by blstravler
Out of interest-

What type of bulbs do you use?

2 x 250W 14K Phoenix DE
Also 2x54 T5s

 

[SaraB]

Maybe I just had a different interpretation of the treatment process. I had read the initial test treatment results and the standard in tank treatment is recommended at 3 treatments. I simply repeated that process by only in my 10 gallon QT tank. It was 100% successful and I have been Red Bug free for 5 months now.

 

[weege1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8172050#post8172050 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sara B
Maybe I just had a different interpretation of the treatment process. I had read the initial test treatment results and the standard in tank treatment is recommended at 3 treatments. I simply repeated that process by only in my 10 gallon QT tank. It was 100% successful and I have been Red Bug free for 5 months now.

Great info... I think I will do two treatments and 10 days in quarantine. That is double what Borneman's recommends.

Lou

 

[SaraB]

Sounds like you have a good plan in place!

 

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8172050#post8172050 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sara B
Maybe I just had a different interpretation of the treatment process. I had read the initial test treatment results and the standard in tank treatment is recommended at 3 treatments. I simply repeated that process by only in my 10 gallon QT tank. It was 100% successful and I have been Red Bug free for 5 months now.

Theres absolutely no need for multiple treatements. One will kill all of them, and if it didnt, none of these dips we do would work.

 

[PUGroyale]

I always wonder why people like to use terms like "Nuke" and "Annihilate" :eek1: when discussing the interceptor treatment. I've got no problem if you want to be cautious and qt your SPS for the treatment, but IMHO doing it in tank is nothing to be concerned about. The only thing I lost were little mysis shrimp that lived in my fuge [btw they're back] I qt'd my hermits. If I lost some pods I sure didn't notice... maybe it's because my wrasse already kept the population down?

 

[bolo77]

A few questions about this:
Aren't you safest treating your whole tank? I say this because with larger colonies you either have the very difficult task of moving them and the rock they are grown onto out or breaking them off inevitably leaving some bits of the base still attached to the LR which then could still leave some redbugs in the display.

Are clams safe with this Rx? Brittle and serpent stars?

If you remove hermits and shrimp pre Rx when is it safe to return them?