rEd86's 700g office tank.

OK. We're finally ready to get moving with this tank upgrade! I have found someone that is going to come up this Tuesday and repair the tank. His name is Larry Iacobella from Alabama and he has been building/repairing tanks for over 25 years. It should be interesting working on this monster since it's not something you can easily flip in order to get at different areas.

So I have started getting items ordered that I am going to need for the upgrade. I am trying to get away with moving to this system without too much initial out of pocket expenses. Ideally I'll break even after I sell the 180g & 265g tanks that I am replacing. Luckily, most of the equipment that is on the 265 can be reused, which was the plan when I initially set it up.

Since I want this tank to be a peninsula, I am going to remove one of the overflows and use the three 1 1/2" bulkheads for a closed loop system. One will be for the inlet and the other two will server as the outlets, alternating flow with a Oceans Motions 4-way. It will be powered with the Reeflow Hammerhead pump that I currently have hooked up as the return for my sump. I spent a good bit of time talking on the phone with Paul Hayton about this. He went through everything that I was doing to make sure what I was ordering was going to work. He validated everything I was planning on doing and clarified a couple of things I wasn't sure about. Talk about great customer service! The closed loop will supplement the VorTech pumps I have and provide flow in the middle section and hopefully avoid dead spots. I can order other pumps as necessary and move the VorTech pumps around when I need to adjust flow.

I have ordered one of the new Reeflow Blackfin 6000 pumps. It has 2" in/out so I can hook it directly to my sump for the return. I plan on building a manifold that can feed most of my equipment in the sump and eliminate a couple of smaller pumps that are not necessary. (on the calcium reactor, skimmer, etc.)

The fun part is going to moving the 265g out of the way to set up the 700g (it will be sitting over the same spot) and moving everything into the new system. The goal is to build the stand once the 700g tank repairs are completed and do a dry fit of all the plumbing and equipment. Then over a weekend, I would take a day to move everything out of the existing tank and into tubs so I can slide the old tank/stand out of the way. The second day would be spent setting up the new tank and moving everything back into the 700g tank.

With any luck this thread will get some activity over the next few weeks and moving forward. And it’s been too long since I have posted a picture so I just snapped this:
Kids.jpg


The girls have made the tank into a clubhouse while it’s been empty â€"œ patiently playing in it when I have to come in and do some work on the tanks at the office. This will be the last time they play in it when it’s dry. Maybe I’ll let them play one last time in it and go for a swim when it's filling up with water before we move the rock in! :D

--Ed
 
I'm very excited for you. I can't wait to see your next update, especially concerning the repair job.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14560754#post14560754 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
I'm very excited for you. I can't wait to see your next update, especially concerning the repair job.
Thanks Marc. I am excited about being able to get this repaired and the installation under way. It kinda sucks since my 265g is really starting to come together. There are a few corals that need trimming that I have put off since I knew I would be making this upgrade, but overall the tank is looking great.

There are a lot of upgrades I want to do to the system as well so I am anxious to get it all done and allow things to just grow for a while. Hopefully this will not be too disruptive and things will look good when we have our monthly club meeting at the office in August.

Later!

--Ed
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14557491#post14557491 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rEd86
OK. We're finally ready to get moving with this tank upgrade! I have found someone that is going to come up this Tuesday and repair the tank. His name is Larry Iacobella from Alabama and he has been building/repairing tanks for over 25 years. It should be interesting working on this monster since it's not something you can easily flip in order to get at different areas.
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Glad to hear that things are coming along. Will def. be a great tank to see when setup.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14557491#post14557491 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rEd86
So I have started getting items ordered that I am going to need for the upgrade. I am trying to get away with moving to this system without too much initial out of pocket expenses. Ideally I'll break even after I sell the 180g & 265g tanks that I am replacing. Luckily, most of the equipment that is on the 265 can be reused, which was the plan when I initially set it up....
Is the existing equipment (skimmer/Ca Rx, filter system etc.) properly sized for this tank? I'd hate to see someone build it quick and re-use under sized equipment just to run into major issues w/ water quality 3 months down the road.

What style & direction will this tank be taking? Reef? Softy / Stony / LPS / Mixed ... FOWLER/Fish Only ?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14557491#post14557491 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rEd86


The fun part is going to moving the 265g out of the way to set up the 700g (it will be sitting over the same spot) and moving everything into the new system. The goal is to build the stand once the 700g tank repairs are completed and do a dry fit of all the plumbing and equipment. Then over a weekend, I would take a day to move everything out of the existing tank and into tubs so I can slide the old tank/stand out of the way. The second day would be spent setting up the new tank and moving everything back into the 700g tank.
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That would be quiet a sight w/ 5 gal buckets :lol:


Good Luck, this seems like a great project!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14570189#post14570189 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by lisaFL
Is the existing equipment (skimmer/Ca Rx, filter system etc.) properly sized for this tank? I'd hate to see someone build it quick and re-use under sized equipment just to run into major issues w/ water quality 3 months down the road.

What style & direction will this tank be taking? Reef? Softy / Stony / LPS / Mixed ... FOWLER/Fish Only ?
Thanks lisaFL.

You can see some of the existing equipment in my build thread, as well as what the tank it is replacing looks like in the BST forums. The sump and return pumps should be fine with the new tank size. The lighting should be good as well, although I am adding an additional LumenBright reflector to handle the extra length. I plan on doing a mesh mod to the skimmer (it has three needle wheel pumps) to improve skimming performance. We'll see how that works and I'll decide to upgrade the skimmer if I am not happy with the results. I have purchased a 12" flanged extension for my Life Reef LCR2 Calcium reactor. It is rated for 600 gallons before the extension so we'll see how it handles things.

The closed loop (Reeflo Hammerhead @ 5800gph), along with the two existing VorTech MP40w pumps (6000gph) will hopefully provide the flow I need within the tank. (I will have the Reeflo BlackFin 6000 pump as a return, which adds 5000gph to the overall flow. (although I will be using a little from it to replace the sump pumps)

I plan on having a mixed reef tank, similar to the 265 that I have now, just bigger with more room for the corals to grow. (and a few more fish when I am sure the skimmer can handle the bioload)

As I post pictures of the improvements, I appreciate any comments/suggestions.

--Ed
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14570520#post14570520 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by aquavista99
I will be following this thread with interest. Looking forward to the updates, Ed!
Thanks. I hope you're able to make it to the August meeting and see this in person.

--Ed
 
Wow! Looking good, Ed! Sorry that I just found your threads (I came over here from the 265).

I'm looking forward to that webcam, though. ;)
 
Thanks Andy. I have the camera working but not accessible to the public internet. Initially I attempted to broadcast the stream off a streaming server, but that added a delay and made it difficult to control the camera. (a click to move the camera to one location didn’t show up in the stream for 10+ seconds) I don’t expect any wardrobe malfunctions here so the delay isn’t necessary.

I am now starting to think that I can just let everyone connect directly to the Axis device. While I was designing this to be scalable, I doubt I’ll ever exceed the maximum number of viewers the camera can handle at any one time.

Later!

--Ed
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14577452#post14577452 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by epdp14
I can't wait to see how everything works out! Good luck on the repairs!
Thanks. Larry showed up today and has started the work. After talking with him, I am pleased that I found him and I am confident he will do a fantastic job. There are a couple of other joints that are questionable workmanship that we are going to reinforce just to make sure we don't have problems further down the line. I have learned a lot just by reviewing everything with him.

I’ll take some pictures and post them around lunch time.

--Ed
 
I don't know. People tend to pull down their publicly accessible reef cams pretty quickly after they post the links on RC. I can only believe that it's bandwidth issues. But, good luck with getting it running!
 
I can set up a max number of users that can be on at any time so I am not as concerned about bandwidth. I'll monitor things and see how it goes. I have options as far as image size/quality that I can tweak. I can also turn off the controlling option and have the camera move around in a scheduled "tour" of the tank. Not as interesting as being able to look around on your own in real time, but it is an option...

--Ed
 
I am tagging along now as well. Please take lots of shots of the tank repair. Very curious to see how he goes about fixing the seam. Good luck -- a 10ft dream tank. SWEET.
 
OK, progress is slow but we're almost done with the prep work. (I can't take much credit since Larry is doing all the work)

We are repairing the one edge by removing the existing combing on the side that leaked. This is a tedious process since you have to take razor blades and work your way through the silicon to be able to break off a piece of the comb. Here's a shot of the tools:
Tools.jpg

It took a while for me to get use to the cracking of glass as each piece was removed but I trust Larry since he’s been working on glass tanks for so long.

Here are some of the design problems that lead to the seam leaking:
  • 3/8" glass was used for the combing (typically 1/2" glass or 3/4" glass should be used on tanks this big)
    The glass strip was only 2" wide
    Two 5ft pieces of glass were used, which puts a seam right in the middle of the tank, where you are going to get the most pressure.
Removing the existing comb is a SLOW process that can't be rushed. After 5 hours it's finally off and getting cleaned for the new combing:
RemovingCombing.jpg


We are going to use TWO 1/2" thick pieces that are 3" wide. This should create a solid seam along the repaired edge. We are also going to add 1/2" piece of glass to the side that didn't leak to reinforce it a little.

Larry also recommended some reinforcement combing on the ends, since the way it was assembled was a little questionable as well. That means I am going to have to change the way I was going to make the peninsula, but I’d rather have a tank that is solid than risk a leak in the future.

More photos as we make more progress.

--Ed
 
So neat. Thanks for sharing updates. Are you even working at all today? :lol: I think you're just hanging around your new toy. :D
 
OK, now we're having fun. Everything is clean and we're cutting the pieces of glass for the combing. It's actually a pretty straight forward process. So here are the basic tools you use.

First, there's the glass cutter. It scores a line along the glass where the cut will be.
GlassCutter.jpg


There is also the glass breaker, it puts even pressure along the score line and snaps the glass in two:
BreakingTool.jpg


A handy acrylic straight edge makes scoring a straight line in the glass easy:
ScoreLine.jpg


And here is a video the demostrates the process. I wasn't expecting the glass to snap as slowly as it does. You can see the break move up the length of the glass as Larry continues to apply pressure to his end with the breaking tool:


Now all the glass is cut and we're ready to smooth the edges and apply the combing.

--Ed
 
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