refugiums
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triggerfish1976
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Science? What does that have to do with our hobby?:lol:
On the other hand, plumbing is a field I can get behind.
On the other hand, plumbing is a field I can get behind.
gwaco
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well i know my 10 year old could do it !
www.bacteriamuseum.org/niches/features/plants.shtml - 12k
www.bacteriamuseum.org/niches/features/plants.shtml - 12k
killagoby
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Some people soak or rinse their food in RO/DI water to remove any excess PO4 before they put it in their main tank. Foods contain some PO4. For instance, frozen foods get it from their cultivation tanks. Then it is frozen in the cube with whatever food it is, Mysis, Brine, ect.
MikeBrke
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You are offensive. Why would you compare me to a 10 year old?
Anyway, my point is we should not have to google and search for your reference. The bottom line is, as someone purporting factual information, the burden of proof is on you and you should make it as easy as possible for us to believe you.
That is why in scientific journals a citation leads to a reference which leads to the exact spot the information came from.
Anyway, my point is we should not have to google and search for your reference. The bottom line is, as someone purporting factual information, the burden of proof is on you and you should make it as easy as possible for us to believe you.
That is why in scientific journals a citation leads to a reference which leads to the exact spot the information came from.
gwaco
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so when are you going to prove to me that refugiums work ?
because saying you have one does'nt prove a thing !
and when someone starts a thread asking whether they are needed or worth it you all are very quick to say they are the "greatest thing since sliced bread" with out having to prove a dam thing ! so what makes you better than me ?
because saying you have one does'nt prove a thing !
and when someone starts a thread asking whether they are needed or worth it you all are very quick to say they are the "greatest thing since sliced bread" with out having to prove a dam thing ! so what makes you better than me ?
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gsellers1245
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wikipedia definition of a REFUGIUM:
A refugium is an appendage to a marine, brackish, or freshwater fish tank in which water flows in, baffles slow it down to allow a certain amount of stagnation, and flows back out into the tank. Sizes vary from as small as a shoe box to as large as an entire aquarium. Inside the semi-stagnant portion, various suppositories can be placed to allow biological filtration to take place. The items depend on the type of tank, but common items include crabs, snails, or other creatures that will break down solid waste, or certain algae or live plant species to reduce nitrate and phosphate levels.
To get the maximum biological filtration (through uptake of nutrients by macroalgae/mangroves), strong lighting can be used on the refugium. The refugium light cycle can be operated opposite to the main tank, in order to keep the total system pH more stable (due to the uptake of acid-forming CO2 by the refugium during its daylight hours).
So what i understand that since my macro is growing...obviously my macro is consuming something right? so how is it now working?
A refugium is an appendage to a marine, brackish, or freshwater fish tank in which water flows in, baffles slow it down to allow a certain amount of stagnation, and flows back out into the tank. Sizes vary from as small as a shoe box to as large as an entire aquarium. Inside the semi-stagnant portion, various suppositories can be placed to allow biological filtration to take place. The items depend on the type of tank, but common items include crabs, snails, or other creatures that will break down solid waste, or certain algae or live plant species to reduce nitrate and phosphate levels.
To get the maximum biological filtration (through uptake of nutrients by macroalgae/mangroves), strong lighting can be used on the refugium. The refugium light cycle can be operated opposite to the main tank, in order to keep the total system pH more stable (due to the uptake of acid-forming CO2 by the refugium during its daylight hours).
So what i understand that since my macro is growing...obviously my macro is consuming something right? so how is it now working?
gwaco
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QUOTE // ( Anyway, my point is we should not have to google and search for your reference. The bottom line is, as someone purporting factual information, the burden of proof is on you and you should make it as easy as possible for us to believe you. )
and you act like this is a court of law ! i could care less if you believe me or not , because some one that is interested enough to find out more info on my statements, i have given where to look ! you do not pay me to list every link i have pertaining to my statements , but you sure expect me to walk you thru it all . all you all have shown here is how when one doesn't agree with you or your methods the lynch mob is sent out !
and you act like this is a court of law ! i could care less if you believe me or not , because some one that is interested enough to find out more info on my statements, i have given where to look ! you do not pay me to list every link i have pertaining to my statements , but you sure expect me to walk you thru it all . all you all have shown here is how when one doesn't agree with you or your methods the lynch mob is sent out !
DaddyJax
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This is a very good discussion and should either continue or stop by staying on topic. Insults and jibes aside. There is a great deal of experience and information to be displayed and shared and I believe that it can be done without losing integrity of the subject.
I believe that in a situation where there is new information brought up that the others are unaware of then the one who brought the information up should qualify the validity of the info by documentation or stating that it is opinion or experience.
I believe that in a situation where there is new information brought up that the others are unaware of then the one who brought the information up should qualify the validity of the info by documentation or stating that it is opinion or experience.
tedmonds
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Back on topic. Here's some proof that a skimmerless tank can thrive. 6 year old 120 gal soft/lps tank. 7-8 fish. 10 gal fuge w/chaeto. 3-4 20% water changes per yr max. no testing, no chemicals added. When a fish dies it stays in the tank as i can rarely find it. As many in the community can attest to, everything grows extremely well and I frag often. The maintenance of a tank is simply not enjoyable to me hence the absence of sps. This setup won't work for a heavy bio load or sps corals, but most people in this hobby don't get to that level anyways.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=232860
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=232860
