Regal Angel Primer

I agree with a varied diet. I used to feed my two red rose anemones chopped clams and then the grocery store could not get them. I called around and found a grocery store which gets me fresh frozen razor clams for $15/lb. I cut them up in 1/4 to 1/2 inch sizes and feed the anemones. I usually have extra and than I cut the thawed clams in to bite size pieces and I try to make sure the Regal gets a good quantity of this fresh seafood. While I was waiting for my recent order of two pounds of razor clam, I purchased a pound each of small scallops and small shrimp. I keep all in the freezer and cut off a chunk and thaw before feeding.

I always try to offer a varied diet for all my fish and it really seems to pay off with healthy looking and acting fish.
 
i ordered a regal and it should here for me on tuesday, i have a plan of sorts and wanted to run it by the members on this board just so i can make sure i am doing everything correctly. i plan to start it off in a 30 gallon qt tank, and keep it in there until i can get it eating really well. im going to be taking some of the LR from my DT and put in the QT so that the regal has rocks to eat off of while in trying to get it accustomed to prepared foods. My DT tank size is 110 gallons and the regal im getting is going to be in the 3" range. im thinking that if i cant get it eating prepared foods off the bat i was going to rubber band some nori sheets to the rock and see if that works. has anyone ever tried that? any thoughts or wisdom either on my plan or anything else i should be doing when i get it in? oh, and unfortunately it is not going to be a red sea regal so i know im already starting with the cards stacked against me :( thanks for any replies or help!
 
Hello:

It is too soon to despair.

I have a three year old 3 1/2" inch Indo-Pacific Regal. Upon receipt of the angel I would start trying freeze dried mysis and brine shrimp soaked in Selcon in a 1/4 cup with water (along with red seaweed, etc.) twice a week if you have it. Frozen food once or twice a week if possible. I would cut up softer (for the softer angel mouth) red seaweed with scissors into bite sized pieces or use Sea Veggies by Two Little Fishes.
 
Convential wisdom say, "ALWAYS".

There I went "flying in the face of conventionaly wisdom with a 120 reef taking up all the room in a one bedroom apartment.

I looked at my aquarium log in Excel with windows explorer and I mistated how long my Regal has been in the tank.

08/24/08 Regal Angelfish - 3 1/12"
02/07/09 Blue Girdled Angelfish - 3 1/12"
11/01/09 Lamark Angelfish - 2"

Call it dumb luck, all three angels are doing well. I tried to get my fish from the best source possible and keep my DT as clean and healthy as possible.
 
Seems like more and more angels and larger fish are coming in with flukes. If you choose not to QT I would at a minimum look them over real well. (not through the plastic bag) I personally feel that with regals the sooner they get stable and in the display the better. It just sucks to infect a healthy tank with a new addition.(I think it's happened to allof us at some point). As far as the food goes I would try to have a large variey on hand and be prepared to do more water changes than normal since you'll be feeding quite a bit that doesn't get eaten etc. To this day one of mine won't eat mysis. Feeding is really hit or miss. They seem to have to learn to eat from the water column. IME food was excepted first when attached to something (LR) then eventually from the water coulmn. Clam on the half shell, scallops were the first foods accepted then a prepared frozen clam mixture and nori later on. flake and pellets last. Had good luck with cylopeze wafers (which are really flakes).
HTH
 
rgentry123:

I agree with the more water changes and hit or miss as well as trying different things. With dispersion from a feeding station the fish can eat from the outer edges until they get more confidence and I have done this many times with over feeding and more water changes to help a new arrival.

I was worried when I read the "Red Sea vs Indo-Pacific" Regal generalization. I would not start thinking I am "only" getting an "Indo-Pacific" Regal and not the "better" and "hardier" Red Sea Regal. My Indo-Pacific Regal can hold his own and is not bothered by anybody. If I were you I would look forward to getting "my" Regal and feeding it through the "water column" within the first few days after it acclimates to the tank. I think everything can go well with your Regal if it has enough live rock to hide and pick especially if there is a bully which will prevent it from feeding(bullying can happen at a feeding station although this allows for eventual food dispursement and maybe even more at a piece of seaweed tied to one spot where the food cannot disperse and give the newcomer a better chance of getting soom food unmolested). I tried the tying seaweed and seaweed clips early on and I have never liked it as eventually the seaweed gets pulled loose by my tangs, angels, etc. and floating into the filter intakes by my experience although to each their own. I spend the time to cut up my seaweed in bite size pieces which is especially helpful to the Regal as it has a rather small beak like mouth although mine can grab hold of a smallish flake of sea weed and munch on it until it has crumbled it into it mouth.

From my experience, the one feeding station practice has worked for my tank although I may disperse a bit of the food through out the tank if I think it will help a new fish.

Fish which are now coming to the feeding station on the back right center of my tank:

02/07/07 Powder Blue Tang - 4 1/2"
11/28/07 Yellow bellied regal blue tang - 5"
10/23/07 Purple tang - 4"
08/08/06 Sailfin Tang - 5"
06/13/09 Vlamingii Tang - 4 1/2"

02/07/09 Blue Girdled Angelfish - 3 1/12"
08/24/08 Regal Angelfish - 3 1/12"
11/01/09 Lamark Angelfish - 2"

12/07/06 Pair Clarkii Clownfish
10/01/06 Pair Cinnamon Clownfish(breeding)
02/27/08 Six Yellow Tailed Blue Damsels
02/27/08 Five Four Striped Damsels
04/19/09 One black mouth Damsel

09/17/09 two six lined Wrasses

Oooops, the following also get flake food, brine shrip, liquid zooplankton and the anemones also get fresh sea food as well as the fish.

12/01/06 Liverock - total 150 pounds

05/05/07 Pineapple Brain coral LPS coral
03/17/07 encrusting brain coral LPS coral
11/01/08 Red Lobophyllia Brain LPS coral
05/14/09 Purple Aussie Lobed Brain Coral
05/14/09 Rose Pink Aussie Lobed Brain Coral
08/04/09 Red, Blue, Green Aussie Lobed Brain Coral
08/04/09 Green/pink Aussie Lobed Brain Coral
07/31/09 Lavender/Green Aussie Lobed Brain Coral

03/15/09 Goniopora - green
04/22/09 Goniopora - orange/red
06/10/09 Gonipora - pink
07/31/09 Gonipora - orange
08/31/09 Goniopora - Aussie green/purple
09/16/09 Gonipora - maroon
10/16/09 Gonipora - dark purple

08/19/09 Alveopora - pink


11/19/07 brown palyoa button corals
11/26/07 green palyoa button corals

09/18/08 red rose bubble tipped anemone
10/01/09 red rose bubble tipped anemone

This is "your" Regal and I hope you are looking forward to getting it on Tuesday.

Good luck!
 
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okay, so im trying to prepare for my regals arrival tomorrow and getting nervous, im still on the fence between whether to put him in the QT or whether to go in the DT, the only real reason i would put it in QT is not for disease control but so that he can start eating without any competition for food. i appreciate all of the help and i definately am extremely happy that i am getting a regal, i only prefer a red sea just becuase they are supposed to be a little hardier than the indo pacific.

szwab, the clams and mussels that you started your regal on, were they purchased at the grocery store? i want to be as prepared as possible and have as much on hand as i can to ensure that my little has a long and happy life.

finsky, if i am reading your post right you had a powder blue and a purple tang in your tank before you added the regal, did you see any issues with aggression? thanks!
 
Agression with Regal

Agression with Regal

okay, so im trying to prepare for my regals arrival tomorrow and getting nervous, im still on the fence between whether to put him in the QT or whether to go in the DT, the only real reason i would put it in QT is not for disease control but so that he can start eating without any competition for food. i appreciate all of the help and i definately am extremely happy that i am getting a regal, i only prefer a red sea just becuase they are supposed to be a little hardier than the indo pacific.

szwab, the clams and mussels that you started your regal on, were they purchased at the grocery store? i want to be as prepared as possible and have as much on hand as i can to ensure that my little has a long and happy life.

finsky, if i am reading your post right you had a powder blue and a purple tang in your tank before you added the regal, did you see any issues with aggression? thanks!

If you really have a bad feeling there might be some aggression you could go to the LFS and get yourself a school of five green Chromis damsels as a dither species, fish to distract other fish from aggression, to put in at the same time as your Regal. I personally have five four striped damsels, six yellow tailed damsels, and one Blackmouth Damsel.

Actually, no aggression to speak of from any of the tangs. My Regal went in and out of the live rock until it became comfortable with his tankmates which did not take long. It started eating pretty much out of the gate in the the DT from food floating in the water column. I have to say with my fish community all is well and the Regal got along with the Majestic pretty much with no problems as if they were best buddies. Of course they were busy eating my mushrooms and toadstool coral.:hmm3:

I did want a Red Sea to begin with although there was none available when I was ready to put one in the tank. I am now as happy as I can be with my Regal.
 
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Yes clams were from the grocery store. Mine were in mesh bags in the seafood section they were live but I froze them obce I got home. Scallops were fresh chopped up but again frozen at home. I would soften them up a bit with water then use a knofe and shave some off to feed. (trying to limit waste) or I would rubberband the to live rock susended in the tank on fishing line. Made it easy to bring in and out and feed in different areas of the tank. I was really concerned about polluting the water. I'd aslo feed the fish on one side then target the regal on the other side of th tank. HTH and good luck. Remember patieace, don't panic snf no idea is a bad one. Everything is worth trying if it gets em eating :)
 
so i just got home and checked for my regal and found, no regal :confused: . i checked fedex's website and found that my regal is in INDIANA. not my DOORSTEP. i am furious. i'm bummed to say the least as i know this is going to cut the likelihood of survival pretty sharply. it may not even come to me alive at all. still hoping for the best but its beginning to dwindle
 
so i just got home and checked for my regal and found, no regal :confused: . i checked fedex's website and found that my regal is in INDIANA. not my DOORSTEP. i am furious. i'm bummed to say the least as i know this is going to cut the likelihood of survival pretty sharply. it may not even come to me alive at all. still hoping for the best but its beginning to dwindle

Sorry to hear this. The weather sucks and can cause delays. I hope the best for you and your fish.
 
you and me both. i will get it at 8:30am tomorrow and try and acclimate it. i just hope it hasnt been sitting around somewhere in 30 degree weather.
 
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