Regal Angel Primer

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whats funny is that i hear of people having issues with ich and i only experianced this with my purple tang for about a week,i dose my tank weekly with 15 drops of garlic extreme...as for humans it fights germs...when i added my regal 7 months ago i to thought that ich might be an issues, but the regal never got it...garlic??????.....maybe try some?.....just my thoughts.....mike;)
 
They're definitely not covered in ich, but I'd rather be sure they never get to that point by medicating. Want to get the ich off while the fish are still strong and fighting it, rather than weakened and succumbing. I have some garlic extreme, but I'd prefer to get rid of the parasite than bet the fish can fight it off themselves. Don't really want to add garlic and copper at the same time since it seems unnecessary, but I am glad you fish are doing well, Mikid :)!

I've transferred them into a bare set up and they're already settled and eating. There's some PVC and a bowl for cover, and this should serve as a much better environment for copper treatment.

Oh and yes I'm already soaking the food in selcon! I love selcon.
 
Well my regals have been in my display for about a week now. They're getting along better in the larger tank. The strangest thing is happening to my blue/gray belly regal, though. Her belly is turning yellow. I thought I had to be imagining it so for the last few weeks I've been ignoring it, but today her belly is undeniably more yellow. The bottom of her chest is bright true yellow, and it's creeping up the sides of the belly now. I'm really surprised and a little confused about it since blue bellies start yellow and turn blue later. Mine was already blue, and now is it turning yellow. She's doing the opposite of what she "should" be doing. Pretty interesting IMO.
 
Well my regals have been in my display for about a week now. They're getting along better in the larger tank. The strangest thing is happening to my blue/gray belly regal, though. Her belly is turning yellow. I thought I had to be imagining it so for the last few weeks I've been ignoring it, but today her belly is undeniably more yellow. The bottom of her chest is bright true yellow, and it's creeping up the sides of the belly now. I'm really surprised and a little confused about it since blue bellies start yellow and turn blue later. Mine was already blue, and now is it turning yellow. She's doing the opposite of what she "should" be doing. Pretty interesting IMO.

My blue belly seems to do the same thing but it always returns back to blue-grey. It's kind of strange.
 
Gray Belly through and through

Gray Belly through and through

Very interesting! Glad I'm not alone haha. I'll keep an eye on her to see if she starts turning back eventually.

I just went over to my five foot 120 reef with fish and invertabraes to look at my Regal's "belly" color. It is a very light gray in color and I do not think I ever saw it different. It does have the bright yellow pelvic and tail fins along with the typical striped colors which make the Regal Angel a Regal Angel.

I also just looked in my log and my Indonesian Regal was introduced into my display tank 25 months ago. He also has a friend, a Majestic Angel, introduced 20 months ago. They seem to get along fine so far. I also have a Purple Tang who was introduced to the tank 36 months ago and a Powder Blue Tang in the tank for 44 months.

They all can hide in the 150 pounds of live rock and as the largest is the Powder Blue at approximately five inches stretching its tail and nose out.

My Regal seems to enjoy his companions and the current variance from a stronger flow in the upper 1/5 of the tank with a Hydor 8 circulation pump in the upper front ends of the tank. The current lessens as you go lower in the 26" high tank. He likes to ride the current or swim against it in the upper 1/5 or he will casually swim around and through the rocks.

He is a really nice and beautiful specimen and he gets along with all the fish above and the new ones listed below which will only get 6" maximum.

Five months ago I decided to add a small carnivore section which seems to be blending well into my community. I have a 4 1/2" inch Fu Manchu Lion, a 2" Fuzzy Dwarf Lion, a 4" maroon and cream wartskin angler, a 5" orange indonesian angler, a 2 1/2" redfin waspfish, and a pair of 4" Yellow Hawaiian Leaf fish. They are eating frozen food and do not bother each other or any of the smaller fish like my three yellow tail damsels, black mouth damsel, and two four striped damsels.

The female Cinnamon clown of my breeding pair 48 months in the tank could probably kill any fish in the tank if she wanted to although she mostly bites my hand when I get too close to her five bubble tip anemones of which she is really protective, especially the one with eggs laid nearby.

This is my Regal's home and neighborhood and so far I think he is doing fine even with his gray belly!
 
Aw I wasn't trying to say it was a health thing or something like that. :) I just found it very curious she would change like this. At this point it is almost hard to tell from my yellow belly color-wise! The only difference is the yellow belly has an orange cast, while the blue is very straight yellow. It would drive me crazy if I couldn't tell them apart lol. I almost want her to change back!

All of those are in a 120g or is the sig old? Not to be critical if it's working out, just curious. I know you didn't post the list for critique but I can't ignore one thing. You shouldn't be surprised if you start having a lot of missing fish with those anglers. Anglers can eat things that are pretty much their own size, and eventually... Well, anything 5" or under could be in trouble. They even try to eat things larger than themselves sometimes which can end up killing both fish.
 
Nov 27th will be 3 years with my Indo-Pacific Regal. These are not the best pics, (good camera had a dead battery), but they are decent enough to at least show the fish...

Oddly enough, the "lumpy" stripe in the middle of the left side bounces between being a short, small individual stripe and being a part of the big stripe like it is now. Its done this twice now since I've owned the fish.

She's about 4 inches long from nose to end of tail, and shares a 120 gallon with a 2.75 inch Purple Tang, a 2.75 inch hybrid Powder Blue Tang, (leucosternon x nigricans), a 3.75 inch Tomini Tang, and a 12 inch Ritteri anemone (4.5 years with me) and a spawning pair of Rod's Percula clowns.

There are SPS, clams, and Zoa's in the tank, and the Regal hasnt touched anything yet. I moved a branching Hammer I from the tank earlier this year due to flow causing issues with it...the Regal never bothered it either.

One thing I noticed was that Regals seem to not "recognize" food very well in captivity and it takes about a year for them to begin to acclimate to the point that they get aggressive in eating. From my experiances, having them in a QT situation with dither fish that will eat well and not act aggressive or territorial to them works very well in helping them adjust.

Mine originally was nervously eat mysis. She now eats flake, pellet, mysis, Rod's food, nori, blanched broccoli, fresh shrimp, fresh scallop, and pretty much everything I throw into the tank. But I have deliberately set this system up so that Regal is the dominant fish in the tank. (Regal was in QT with both the Tomini and the Purple, was an inch larger than the Tomini, and was more than twice the size of the Purple. The Powder Blue was added last, and has not tried to dominate anything in the 6 months I've had it).

Nick
 

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Lovely pair of Regals! My dream Angel, since right now I have no facilities for keeping one. Hopefully in a year or two, I'll get a larger tank!

Matthew
 
I get a reaction every time I reveal my inhabitants

I get a reaction every time I reveal my inhabitants

Aw I wasn't trying to say it was a health thing or something like that. :) I just found it very curious she would change like this. At this point it is almost hard to tell from my yellow belly color-wise! The only difference is the yellow belly has an orange cast, while the blue is very straight yellow. It would drive me crazy if I couldn't tell them apart lol. I almost want her to change back!

All of those are in a 120g or is the sig old? Not to be critical if it's working out, just curious. I know you didn't post the list for critique but I can't ignore one thing. You shouldn't be surprised if you start having a lot of missing fish with those anglers. Anglers can eat things that are pretty much their own size, and eventually... Well, anything 5" or under could be in trouble. They even try to eat things larger than themselves sometimes which can end up killing both fish.

My tank is a five foot 120 tank with 150 lbs of live rock and many hermit crabs and snails over the four years and two months. I just added two 55 gallon cleaner packs from Dr. F & S with Turbo snails, Dwarf Red Tip Hermit crabs, and Scarlet Reef Hermit crabs. I added them in a week apart with the second put in on Friday. I have added about 160 various hermit crabs from Jan 2007 through Jan 2008. I added 40 Zebra Dwarf Hermit crabs last January. The new cleaner packs have done a marvelous job making my tank shine brighter with the two 150 metal halides and the four 54 watt actinics.

I still have my three yellow tail damsels, one six line wrasse, one black mouth damsel, two four striped damsels, a two inch fuzzy dwarf lion, a two and a half inch redfin wasp fish, a large pair of Cinnamon clowns and they have not been lunch to date. I try to feed my fish as much as I possibly can while still maintaining water quality for my corals which include three sps montioporas plate corals, one encrusting sps montioporas, one lobed brain, one favite brain, two flower pot corals, five bubble tip anemones and it seems to work for the tank. I do not always "use caution" when I decide to enter a certain fish and I think these two anglers which were sold as getting not bigger than six inches maximum have not yet attacked my smaller fish. I feed them silversides. My lions are small mouthed and have not bother these small fish either.

My stocking for my tanks particular may not be what others would consider "safe" although I have smaller fish swimming around both of my smaller anglers. I particularly did not select anglers which would get bigger than six inches.

I used to have a really serious aggression issue with the female Cinnamon chasing the female Clarkii. My recliner is two feet from the left end of the tank and I have my 60" Marineland Pro Lighting System over the tank which is left open to the air. I would get water splashed on my face although the fins stayed in good shape on the Clarkii female.

A week after putting in the "terminator", orange indonesian angler, I noticed there was not the continual tank chaos which I was powerless to prevent as the clowns would dive for the rocks with introduction of any net.

The terminator was floating around the tank with what looked like a two and a half bulge. He would float in the upper current like a Thanksgiving Parade ballon and then position himself looking down between the glass and the back of one of my Hydor 8's. He eventually digested as far as I could tell since I never saw the female Clarkii again. He was the best addition towards the peace in my tank with the female Cinnamon cruising her tank and breeding with her mate. Yes, he may be a terminator, although I am thinking he may have just wanted to say, "there is a new sheriff in town", and lets all get along!

The male still hides in the rocks on the left end while the Cinnamons host the full length of the tank in all five anemones.

After this initial "disappearance", I have not had any other "suspicious" disappearances.

I really think my fish are aware where to go to be safe and nobody runs scared and everybody seems happy from what I can tell with not chasing or aggressive actions which ruin the tanks peaceful looking status.

Yes, I may be pushing some conventional ideas on fish compatibility although I think it is working for me.

I also over filtrate with an Aqua-Medic Turboflotor 1000 Multi protein skimmer rated for 250 gallon tank maximum, two Rena XP4 canisters each rated up to a 265 gallon tank(my sumps), and the 150 lbs of live rock with two Hydor 8 circulation pumps. One each in the upper front of the left and right ends for excellent biological filtration.

I will judge my stocking when I can evaluate it in the long term.

For now I am happy with things as they are and everybody is eating well or has been eaten well?

I would preferr to have the angels, tangs, large Cinnamons, and other fish like the lions and redfin waspfish, and pair of Leaf fish and lose the all the damsels although I am hoping for "lets all get along" system in the long run.

Time will tell.
 
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For good reason in terms of the frogfish ;). It's nice it is working so far, but they aren't good community fish for the average tank.
 
Here is a pic of my Regal with the tiny stripe...from Feb of last year:

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You can see how the tiny stripe was absorbed by the larger stripe behind it, (moving towards the tail of the fish)


Nick
 

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Its interesting thats for sure....I kinda like the tiny "stripe-let" more than the lumpy stripe...

I also jinxed myself with regards to her not touching Zoa's...came home yesterday with a new frag of Devil's Armor zoa's...cool morph too. noticed it was closed up and figured it was because the frag wasnt in bright enough lighting so I moved it out more. Came back an hour later, and it was nibbled right off of the frag plug....:(
Cant definitively say it was the Regal that did the deed....I have heard of Powder Blue Tangs eating Zoa's and Paly's before.....but the Regal look suspiciously chubby and had a guilty look about her...

All Zoa frags were moved to an enclosed frag rack for their safety....

Nick
 
On the plus side of things, if I ever get something over-run with Zoa's, I can just place it in the display tank and she'll clean it up for me....

Nick
 
I pick up my regal this week and wondering what best to feed i have the following in prep
Frozen
brine
mysis
rotifers
daphnia
Dry
Spectrum pellets
cyclopese (powder variety)

what else should i get in prep? Is the julian sprung red and purple seaweed a good idea, along with their dried seafood mix? Also will buy some live baby and adult brine but dont want to feed this long term.

Thanks
Ryan
 
Red/Purple Seaweed

Red/Purple Seaweed

I pick up my regal this week and wondering what best to feed i have the following in prep
Frozen
brine
mysis
rotifers
daphnia
Dry
Spectrum pellets
cyclopese (powder variety)

what else should i get in prep? Is the julian sprung red and purple seaweed a good idea, along with their dried seafood mix? Also will buy some live baby and adult brine but dont want to feed this long term.

Thanks
Ryan

I just opened a 30 Gram package of Sprungs Red/Purple Seaweed and cut it with scissors into small bite sized pieces which I put into a large empty freeze dried mysis shrimp plastic container. I do have an inch thick stack of 10x10 inch San Francisco Bay green seaweed I cut up as well although I have one 30 gram container of Ocean Nutrition Red Algae cut up and put into another empty container. The reason I like the purple red is it is softer for the mouths of angels and other fish with softer mouths. Mine will grab a piece and crumple it up and swallow it.

Of course I feed small pieces of raw razor clam left over from feeding my five bubble tips once a week. My Regal loves those raw clam pieces.

You have a good list and you might want to consider always soaking the food in a multiple vitamin like Vita-Chem, Selcon, and straight Vitamin C. I do all three which reminds me I have to feed my fishies!

Oh, mine likes to swim around 160 lbs of live rock if available.

Good luck!!!
 
Try anything and everything. Be sure to have some clams available live. I found mine had to "learn" to eat from the water column. They first only ate food attached to rock or on the bottom of the tank.
 
Try anything and everything. Be sure to have some clams available live. I found mine had to "learn" to eat from the water column. They first only ate food attached to rock or on the bottom of the tank.

what type of clams? the ones which are on the live rock?

Thanks Finksy, i am also getting some live sponge and have some acans in there incase if wants to eat those, and also got some small zoos (purple hornets) in case it wants to graze on those....The health of fish is really important to me :love2:
 
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