Regal Angel Primer

Just wanted to post a pic of my pacific regal. He has been with me for just a bit over a year now. He recently stopped eating for five days and I was worried I was going to lose him. I was persistent with clams soaked in garlic on the half shell, and he eventually gave in and started eating and bossing everyone around.

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just wanted to join this thread and try to get some help. After doing plenty of research and looking around i brought home a pacific regal from the only lfs that had one around. The little guy looked plump and healthy, but he wasnt eating. The store gave me a very good price and i thought i might as well since he will be better off with me. The regal came home monday and started picking on rocks right away, as of yesterday he started eating frozen clam and angel food. As of today he seems to have a fuzzy look to him, looks like velvet. Before anyone says anything the regal is in a 90 gallon with only a goby as a tankmate and plenty of lr. I asked in the disease forum but thought i would ask here as well. Any thoughts on how to treat and with what? Last time i encountered velvet it killed all my fish within 2 days. The goby has no signs of disease and its possible the regal brought this in from the lfs(not known for the healthiest fish around). I have tomorrow off and ill do anything in my hands to save this little guy, i thought i had the hard part figured out(getting him to eat).
 
Just wanted to update...
My Regal still isn't eating out of the water column. Yet he devours Clams and muscles on the half shell.... Also eats the ProV veggie Bites.... Is this enough nutrition to sustain him long term??

Also should I stick to one clam a day?? Or feed him twice. Once in morning, and once at night??
 
After reading the two previous split Regal threads and now this thread, I finally took the plunge and picked up a Solomon Island Regal from a small local fish store. It is about 5" specimen and extremely colorful (bluish grey belly) and healthy looking. I took about 2.5 hours slowly acclimating. I also did my usual 50 minute formalin bath, which resulted in no noticeable fluke drop off. I added him to the tank when lights went out and my other fish were all settled in their caves. I will be picking up mussels and clams after work today. Lights won't be back on until I get home, I will be using the old mirror trick so no one gives the regal a problem. I will post a pic this evening.

Darth- I intend on feeding mine twice a day until he hopefully eats from the water column. I feed a very varied diet to my tank so I am hoping something will catch his attention. Do you soak your clams in selcon or Vita chem?
 
Thought I would post an update.

The 2 juvis were not getting on at all, no fighting but one was dominating the other.

I went to a LFS and saw a 4" female and to cut a long story short I added it to the tank with the juvi's and..............

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They bonded-I have remover the other juvi and sold it on.

Hopefully they will pair when the juvi matures.
 
I bought a 4.5" Indo Regal last month fro an LFS. He is only eating clams on the half shell and algae off the glass. I recently got a deal from Serdar at Phishy for a juvi red sea regal, which arrived yesterday. I had previously removed the Indo regal to my sump, where he seems to be thriving and is eating his clams consistently. The RS juvi is still getting used to his new home, but is already eating mysis and brine. I want to eventually re-introduce my Indo to my display. My question is how long should I wait to do so? Also will there be much fuss between them even though the juvi is half the size of my Indo and will have marked out his territory? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
 
What's everyone's take on multiple regals???
I've had mine for over 2yrs now and she's still fairly small.
I'd like to have a trio like copps but not sure if that's possible.
Is there any way to tell if it's male female??? i thought the cheek spine had to do w/it but not 100% positive.
 
I added a small Indo regal first and then a med RS regal a month later and the two never even look at eachother. It probably helps to add a larger one after a smaller. If it were the other way around, the larger would most likely be more territorial and dominant. The RS ate spectrum pellets right off the bat but it took a couple of weeks before the small Indo took to the pellets. They both used to be chased around by my grumpy old emperor angel but he's mellowed out with age as he totally leaves the regals alone now.:)
 
JNC,
Try pro-v veggie bites. My RS regal loves them. He chases them around like a soccer ball and devours them. He also eates clams half shelled.
 
guys. i been doing some research on the regal and i think i want one. just want your opinions. i have a 285g reef tank with plenty of rocks and only a blue tang (4"), orange should tang (2.5"), a pair of true percs, and a pair of scooter blennies. gonna be okay in my system? i plan on keeping an eye on the fish first for a couple weeks in my 65g qt. i am looking at probably a 3" specimen and do not really know from what area, hopefully i can find a red sea regal. what you think? i am planning on feeding all types of macroalgaes, mysis, and garlic soaked clams (as a preventive measure).
 
The angel should be OK as long as the blue tang doesn't take a dislike to it.

May I just ask- garlic soaked clams as a preventative for what??
 
well i got another regal. mine is maybe a 1/2" bigger than the new one. I had them both in QT but my original one started beating the snot out of the new one. So i moved them to my 225 and now they're fine. The larger one barely takes notice of the smaller.
 
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The angel should be OK as long as the blue tang doesn't take a dislike to it.

May I just ask- garlic soaked clams as a preventative for what??
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as a booster to the immune system. i have no known diseases in my tank right now. i want the boost to the immune system because from my readings, regals are harder to keep in captivity?
 
Garlic doesn't affect the immune system on fish- in fact it is detremental to their health, causing damage to the liver.
 
Garlic doesn't affect the immune system on fish- in fact it is detremental to their health, causing damage to the liver.
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Can you provide references to back this up?

From the F&S website, here is a description for garlic guard:
Contains allicin, the active ingredient in garlic with powerful antioxidant properties that can lessen free radical damage to cells - plus Vitamin C for enhanced health benefits.
 
Can you provide references to back this up?
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There has been a huge amount of debate on British websites about the use of garlic. This is from Ultimatereef written by their Fish health advisor (Wombat a PhD in fish health).
My research and it is real research using controls and done in my laboratory (I say my laboratory because it really is, I run it and oversee the research that comes out if it as the professor in charge of it) clearly shows that garlic fed long term has no benefit on feeding response, nor is it an immunostimulant in fish (see Bricknell, I. & R. A. Dalmo. 2005. The use of immunostimulants in fish larval aquaculture. Fish Shellfish Immunol., 19: 457-472) and the scientific literature does not show that it cures white spot. However Like any scientist if people come along with the data I like you would be very happy to reconsider my opinion, but I've yet to see that data.
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Here are a few scientific papers.

Bell JG, Dick JR, McVicar AH, Sargent JR, Thompson KD 1993
Terrestrial and fish oils affect phospholipid fatty acid composition, development of cardiac lesions, phospholipase activity and eicosanoid production in Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar).
Prostaglandins Leukot Essent Fatty Acids. 49(3):665-73

Bell JG, McVicar AH, Park MT, Sargent JR.1991.
High dietary linoleic acid affects the fatty acid compositions of individual phospholipids from tissues of Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar): association with stress susceptibility and cardiac lesion.
J Nutr. 121(8):1163-72

J. Gordon Bell2, John McEvoy3, Douglas R. Tocher, Fiona McGhee, Patrick J. Campbell* and John R. Sargent 2004
Replacement of Fish Oil with Rapeseed Oil in Diets of Atlantic Salmon (Salmo salar) Affects Tissue Lipid Compositions and Hepatocyte Fatty Acid Metabolism
The American Society for Nutritional Sciences

J.G. Bell1, D.R. Tocher1, B.M. Farndale1, A.H. McVicar2 and J.R. Sargent1 1999
Effects of essential fatty acid-deficient diets on growth, mortality, tissue histopathology and fatty acid compositions in juvenile turbot (Scophthalmus maximus)
Journal Fish Physiology and Biochemistry 1573-5168 Volume 20, Number 3 p263-277

SL Seierstad, TT Poppe, EO Koppang, A Svindland, G 2005
Influence of dietary lipid composition on cardiac pathology in farmed Atlantic salmon, Salmo salar L
Journal of Fish Diseases,[/font]

This also makes interesting reading http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...ture/index.php
 
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One thing I found interesting in that quote was the fact that the paper he cited for it being an immunostimulant was a paper for larval fish no settled fish.

BUT I still agree. It is not needed. However I don't think it adversly affects their liver. It is probably the fact that the fish are being fed foods of high fat content and over time develop fatty liver disease.
 
thoughts and opinions needed please:

I've been in search for a regal for some time now. I would really like a Red Sea type but recently came across an Indo the colors aren't the greatest it still has it's Juvi "eye" on the back though not real pronounced. the catch is it is eating like no regal I have seen in a LFS. I'm wary because it is Indo and because of coloration should I be?
 
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