Regal Angel Primer

I'm getting a juvi ragal within the next few weeks. I'll like to make extra sure that it will get off to the best start in my tank.
Is there some sort of medicine which will be appropriate to to use while acclimating the fish to my reeftank in a seperate bucket over a couple of hours? I'm not gonna QT the fish.
 
I picked up a 4.5" regal 3 weeks ago and man is this fish ever shy. It was held in my 25g frag tank ( with lots of rocks) during aclimation where I was able to dedicate it's demands. I started with clams, then move to prawns, and then to nori. Luckly for me, it ate little bit of everything after a week of just hidding behind the rocks. After two weeks, I stopped the clams and was only feeding nori and prawns wrapped on a PVC pipe. It really likes this method and is now regained it's former weight. It did not seem to care much for mysis or brine.

The real test is when I move it over to the display tank where it will have to compete with 7 tangs, and 6 angels. Hopefully it will remember the PVC method and learn to eat pellets over time as the main tank is primarily on pellets. Fingers crossed.

My previous regal attemp was in a bare 25g quaratine tank where I was dosing Prazi. After a week of preventative medication, it died, perhaps I over dosed or it was just too sensitive to the drug. Two other butterflyfish in that same tank was alright with the medication. I don't think I will go that route again on a healthy fish just for the sake of precautions. I am sure I wasted a healthy regal due to prazi.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14881557#post14881557 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Danieltank
I'm getting a juvi ragal within the next few weeks. I'll like to make extra sure that it will get off to the best start in my tank.
Is there some sort of medicine which will be appropriate to to use while acclimating the fish to my reeftank in a seperate bucket over a couple of hours? I'm not gonna QT the fish.
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See here:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=14879089#post14879089

I would not recommend putting a Juvi Regal into the main tank unless he is the only/primary resident. They are extremely shy, and will not do well with established tankmates, unless they are already eating. In a QT, you can treat for flukes, and teach him to eat prepared foods, without being harassed

If you're hell bent on sticking him straight into the display, a freshwater dip should remove most of the flukes that are along for the ride, but its no guarantee. FW dip is also very stressful. Regals are very shy, and it just takes one little thing, and they wont eat. If you dont mind the possiblity of treating your display with PraziPro, I would forgo the FW dip, and concentrate on getting him to eat first, and deal with parasites later. They usually dont bother the fish enough to prevent him from eating. A harassing tankmate will. They usually die of starvation before any other illness, from what I've read.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14881752#post14881752 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Felixc

My previous regal attemp was in a bare 25g quaratine tank where I was dosing Prazi. After a week of preventative medication, it died, perhaps I over dosed or it was just too sensitive to the drug. Two other butterflyfish in that same tank was alright with the medication. I don't think I will go that route again on a healthy fish just for the sake of precautions. I am sure I wasted a healthy regal due to prazi.
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Its funny you mentioned that. I miscalculated my PraziPro dose, and only dosed 1/10 the recommended dose. That alone caused noticible stress on the Regal. I did a 30% water change 2 days later, and skimmed as much as I could. Thing was, that he stopped twitching/scratching after that. I'm sure it didnt kill all the flukes, but as others have mentioned, you probably dont want to do that immediately (flukes will leave holes in the skin, and they tend to bleed when the fluke falls off).

Anyhow, I'd start off with only a fraction of the recommended dose, just enough to alleviate the stress to the fish, so that you can concentrate on getting him to eat.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14883571#post14883571 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tankslave
See here:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=14879089#post14879089

I would not recommend putting a Juvi Regal into the main tank unless he is the only/primary resident. They are extremely shy, and will not do well with established tankmates, unless they are already eating. In a QT, you can treat for flukes, and teach him to eat prepared foods, without being harassed

If you're hell bent on sticking him straight into the display, a freshwater dip should remove most of the flukes that are along for the ride, but its no guarantee. FW dip is also very stressful. Regals are very shy, and it just takes one little thing, and they wont eat. If you dont mind the possiblity of treating your display with PraziPro, I would forgo the FW dip, and concentrate on getting him to eat first, and deal with parasites later. They usually dont bother the fish enough to prevent him from eating. A harassing tankmate will. They usually die of starvation before any other illness, from what I've read.
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Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I don't have a separate QT. However, I have the following plan:

1) Slowly acclimate the fish over a couple of hours
2) FW dip for 3 min in RO water
3) Add the fish to a see-through box with small wholes and a few pieces of pvc pipes for hiding and place it in the main tank
4) add a cleaner shrimp to the box to pick off parasites from the fish
5) This way I can hopefully teach the fish to eat without being disturbed while the new fish gets used to the established fished and vice versa, without them being able to attack each other
6) Keep the fish in the box for app 1 week, observe whether it shows signs of illness.
7) Perform FW dips 2-3 times during the week

How does this plan sound to you guys?
 
As already noted, these are a delicate fish and you will have the best chance with a separate qt tank. Mine is very shy and hides in the rockwork. It would not have done well in a see through holding container in the main tank.

You may want to pick up a cheap used setup for qt and resell it when you are finished with it.
 
Instead of the see-through box, I would get one of those tank dividers, or just use some egg-crate (http://www.louversintl.com/products/louver_eggcrate.html). If you're going to put him in the main tank, at least let him have access to some live rock to forage on.

Personally I'd only do one FW dip before introduction to the tank. After that, just wait and see if he develops any symptoms. I would not do any more FW dips unless absolutely necessary with this fish. Besides, once he is in the display tank, and you find he does have flukes, or anything else, you will probably have to treat the whole tank. FW dip will take care of what flukes he brings in. It will probably be a few weeks before any eggs hatch and can reach maturity. Once he is in the display tank, just concentrate on feeding him. Dont stress him out with additional FW dips until he is eating, and only if necessary. That would be my advice.
 
I've tried and failed with Regals 3 times but going to try again soon. Do these pair well? I'm thinking of getting 2 juvis at the same time.

That morph at the top of this page is outstanding.
 
The literature usually recommends not to put two adults together, except in very large tanks (which you seem to have). I dont know about juvis...
 
Hey Michael. The season is about done for them. You may see a few left come out of Vanuatu. T Wish I could get me hands on one of these Regards. T
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Received my red sea regal angel this saturday and it looks nice fat. The store called it a "fingerprint regal angel" as it has some very cool looking miss-bars on the one side and looks normal on the other. I gave it a 5 min FW dip before introduced to my reef.

So far it has eaten some New Life Spectrum pellets. Today, however, I have noticed some white ich on its tail and a white dot on its one eye. Also it has changed behavior compared to the last couple of days, as it has stayed more behind the rocks today.

Should I be worried? Have purchased Oodinex, which should be usable in reeftanks. But I am a bit reluctant to use it other than as a last resort.
 
Oodinex is an excellent product that I have used many times in the past. I can't find it here in the US anymore. It is COPPER based so I wouldn't use it in a reef tank. I only have experience with it in a FO tank. Good Luck w/ the new regal.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15120670#post15120670 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Danieltank
Received my red sea regal angel this saturday and it looks nice fat. The store called it a "fingerprint regal angel" as it has some very cool looking miss-bars on the one side and looks normal on the other. I gave it a 5 min FW dip before introduced to my reef.

So far it has eaten some New Life Spectrum pellets. Today, however, I have noticed some white ich on its tail and a white dot on its one eye. Also it has changed behavior compared to the last couple of days, as it has stayed more behind the rocks today.

Should I be worried? Have purchased Oodinex, which should be usable in reeftanks. But I am a bit reluctant to use it other than as a last resort.
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Is it a white spot, or more like a blotch? Could be flukes.
 
the eye looks a bit cloudy by now, so it could be a fluke. Also the stomach looks a bit swollen, but he doesn't look skinny. Consider buying some Tremazol and soak some NLS pellets in, or taking him out and treat in a separate 20l. bucket for some time?
 
or would it be better to treat the whole tank with sera tremazol? have sps, lps, inverts (GBTA), and tridacnas. could take many of the corals out and put into a separate bucket while treating?
 
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