Regal Angel Primer

you can kill parasites jsut by rasing hte temperature? how bad is it for fish if the temperture is traised that much and why does it kill the parasites..? ive always jsut kept mine at about 81 to 82, but just curious.
 
Yes higher temps can kill parasites on your fish. The problem is if you keep your fish in the temp too long it can do alot more harm than good. It's a very risky thing to do and thats why most people dont do it
 
Raising the temperature in your tank to 85 degrees or higher for 5-7 days speeds up the life cycle and makes the tomites (a stage of Ich) are unable to reproduce.

I would not recommend this in your main display tank since higher temperatures means less oxygen in the water.

I unfortunately experienced this first hand 2 years ago. I had a butterfly that got marine velvet that spread like wildfire. Within 5-7 days, all my fish in my 90g tank were dead. Since there were no fish and corals in the tank, I raised the temp in the tank to 86 degrees for 5 days and also dropped the salanity to 1.018 (to make sure all parasites were killed). I slowly added fish to the tank and to this date, I am doing fine.

HTH
Kirk
 
Just so everyone is clear, raising the temperature speeds up the life cycle of the parasite but DOES not kill it at any stage.

Greg
 
This is not meant as a flame just the last few post looks like its recommending raising temp as a "cure" germs (virus, dis, parasite). Im not saying anyone is recommanding but someone that doesn't know as much as we might may take it as a recommended "cure"

I wouldn't recommend raising temp as a cure and most people (cheap or careless will think "wow, cool, cheap cure") Some fish/invert doesn't take to warmer or cooler water then they have been use too. There as been some study animal fish and invert that are in area like the tidepool that get large swing is temp. when the researcher raise the temp a few degree it was sometimes killed a good % of them.
I really have to say that temp higher temp does kill parasite but can have long term effect to the fish that might not be be seen in the short term.

But how do you know it doesn't harm the fish in the long term?
would't FW drop for 20 to 30mins also kill parasite/germs. (I would't do this also some fish/invert might fine but some would be a 100% death)
 
Increasing the temp like that is definately not a route I would take. This all started more as a joke because my heater broke while transporting my fish. Hopefully no one takes this as a "cure" for parasites
 
Secrest,

I know it was more on the side of a joke but I also didn't want anyone that is read and learning to think that this was a fact. Some FW animal can deal with it more because the way FW body system are . Believe it or not some people think ich is normal on fish because some fish just it easy like tang =( or rub on sand and rock.

No harm no foul at less I hope. I just state it as more of a disclaimer.
 
how do you tell what ocean the angel comes from? my lfs has one and i dont know how to tell the difference. also would a 90 gallon reef be ok for him/her?
 
a 90g reef is a gamble in a couple sense. It's on the smaller side, though not "crazy", and it's a reef--ie you add an angel at your corals risk.

In GENERAL, yellow chested regals are from the red sea and blue/gray chested are from the pacific. That being said, some yellow chested can come from Bali (like mine). As a generality, regardless, most success stories are with yellow chested regardless of place of origin.
 
My new Regal

My new Regal

After reading and posting on this thread, I decided that I would give the Regal a shot. Afterall this is a Beautiful fish. With a tank full of SPS I know my water quality is up to par so I took the plung. I had two LFS trying to get me a decent Regal but with no luck. A couple of you guys suggested I try VividAquarium.com. I have order fish from other places before and I was very disappointed with the results usually ending in lost fish. I emailed Dave at Vivid and told him what I was looking for. About a week later he emailed me back and said he had one. I have never had this happen before but Dave agreed to keep the fish for a week to cut down on the shipping stress. I got this little guy Wednesday. After 1 1/2 hours drip acclimating I turned the little guy loose in the tank. As soon as he was free he started picking at the rocks. Not once have I seen it hide its always out in the open checking out everything.
Heres a pix of my new pride and joy..
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A Great Thanks goes out to the Guys and Gals that hooked me up with VividAquarium.com:D
 
DukeNSC,

Thanks for the testimonial. I too am debating on whether to get a RA from VividAquariums. When the time is ready, I think I may give them a try.

What size is your fish? From the pic it looks to be a medium? (3-4 inches? Is that correct?

thanks
Kirk
 
This lil guy is about 3 - 3 1/2 long including tail.

Day 3: The Regal is still going great. I haven't seen it it eat yet, but it is still picking at the rocks. I'm going to try a food mix I use tomorrow.
Note* I have not seen it pick at any zoo's or my clams.
 
Just to let you know,

it will take the new regal about 2-3 weeks before you know for sure if it is eating you corals.

they need to get settled in before they feel comfortable, then you will see if it is picking or not.

Nick
 
Duke

If your regal is not eating, let me suggest what I did.

I gave mine garlic and selcon soaked live brine for the first 3-4 days, gradually adding frozen mysis and cyclopeez for the next 3-4 days. Then I weaned off the live shrimp by 1 week mark.

Good luck
 
Dave at VividAquarium said that it was eating Formula 2 at his place. I am going to try a mixture that I have used with good success later today.

I mix 1 cube of Mysis Shrimp, 1 cube of Angel Formula and I add a pinch of Nutra-Fin and a pinch of Spectra. I had my powder Brown and Majestic eating on a normal basis in 2 days with this. Now I can just throw in a pinch of Nutra-Fin or Spectra and save the frozen food for treats every couple of days...
 
DukeNSC said:
Day 3: The Regal is still going great. I haven't seen it it eat yet, but it is still picking at the rocks. I'm going to try a food mix I use tomorrow.
Note* I have not seen it pick at any zoo's or my clams. [/B]

Can I also give a suggestion, try pushing some of the food into a little rock & sitting it in the tank near the regals hideout, if its picking at rock it may ahve a pick at the food in the rock.

I got mine eating the 3rd day this way,, it now eats from my fingers.
 
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