Regal Angel Primer

As I mention, dont get too exicited fish keepers. If your regal is eating. This does not mean its not cyanide caught. In my experience, one main reason they dont last is because as I mention in my post this fish is cyanide caught many collectors here do have a hard time getting them. This fish do hide in the rock very good and will not go out. Sure it will eat like all but stop and die without any reason like many. Don't just trust any dealer or your LFS. Many marine fish here are exported around the world. Dont bother keeping this fish unless you are 100% sure it from the REDSEA or MAC certified. Save your investment in the long run. Until I see things change here with angelfishes. It is not worth keeping.

Many butterfly, tangs, batfish, damsel, clownfish, wrasse from the Philippines are VERY safe. They are easily net-caught with or without the MAC stamp.
 
I picked up a Red Sea Regal Angel from a local petstore today. It had been there for 2 months and was still fat and eating well. It is going in my 125 gallon aquarium with a pair of common clowns, a pair of flame hawks, a potters angel and a couple of cleaner shrimp. After a couple of hours of aclimation it ate some mysis and is out and about. I am very hopeful that it will continue to do well.
 
Rook

Cool to see pic of a regal in its native habitat. Thanks for pic. Looks nice and plump.

JDS

Interesting theory.

Can you post pix of your regal? Is its body full?

I doubt that its dying from gluttony or ammonia spikes from too much food. Those regals probably would have died if they were fed less. Tough to prove or refute your theory.
 
jsmith0193,
Good choice! But How do you know if your regal came from the redsea?
Is there any marking or stamp that your regal came from that area.
Because some LFS owners can surely mix up this fish from the ones from the pacific.
 
Good question Mike!

The only way that I know that my LFS regal came from the Red Sea is that he gets his RS shipments in separately from his Bali & Hawaiian shipments. I watch when his RS shipments come in and all the fish are native to the RS out of that shipment.
 
HOZERTHEBONEFISH said:
Rook

Cool to see pic of a regal in its native habitat. Thanks for pic. Looks nice and plump.

JDS

Interesting theory.

Can you post pix of your regal? Is its body full?

I doubt that its dying from gluttony or ammonia spikes from too much food. Those regals probably would have died if they were fed less. Tough to prove or refute your theory.
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I think it might be time to purchase a digital camera.:)

I also don't believe it gluttony. I was wondering if maybe excess amount of fat without the ability to really work it off could do something negative to the internal organs. But like you said it's tough to prove or disapprove.
 
Mike - I checked the fishes passport - it was definately Red Sea. Actually, they could have lied to me - but it is yellow throated.
 
I was told he was from the red sea. They could have lied to me, I don't know. Its not going to keep me up at night, and you shouldn't let it keep you up either. I apparently should have stated that I was not aware of the exact location the fish was collected since I didn't get a copy of the id of the collector along with a pic of the collector and fish.
 
jsmith0193 said:
.... since I didn't get a copy of the id of the collector along with a pic of the collector and fish.
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That was very lax of you. :D

I'm certainly not worried about where mine came from. He's happy, has settled in well, has started to stand up for himself in the odd territioral dispute and has an apetite to match the rest of his tankmates. For now, that is all that matters.

Steve
 
i always thought the yellow throated were red sea and the blue/grey were Indonesian.

Steve maybe you got a red sea regal that was labeled wrong?
 
szwab said:
i always thought the yellow throated were red sea and the blue/grey were Indonesian.

Steve maybe you got a red sea regal that was labeled wrong?
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The "Red Sea" regal colouring is, AFIK, really Red Sea and Indian Ocean colouring. The Indian Ocean and the Pacific more or less meet around Indonesia. From what I understand, around that part of the world, you can find both colour schemes.

Steve
 
I have a regal that came in red sea and has the yellow chest. I have seen regals come in as Indonesian with the whitish chest. I don't really know for sure.
 
Jsmith, I just came back from a short holiday. My bestfriend owns a resort here in the Philippines 4 hours away from my place. His beach resort is a perfect santuary area. I have been releasing fishes there regularly. Different fish everytime. Recently, 1 french and 1 Annularis Angelfish are what i released in the wild. These angelfishes are not endemic here so it is sort off special. Had it for almost 1 year already grew double the size.

Regarding your Regal. You cant blame your LFS. Many dont know or wont know unless they import the fish directly form the REDSEA and not buy it from transhippers.

If you follow the literature, those Regal from the Indian Ocean and Redsea have a yellowish orange in the breast and head, while the Pacific have bluish gray coloration.

Again like I mentioned, how do you know if your regal is from the redsea?

In my experience, I have seen Regals that have the yellowish orange in the breast and head over here in the Pacific and bluish gray coloration at the same time.

My suggestion nextime try to look for a mac retailer in your area specially for all large angelfishes. This way you will have assurance and the area of origin would not matter pacific, Indian Ocean or Redsea. As long as it is net-caught. Your investment is safe. Cost more but worth it.
 
Not to pick a fight - but I think it is far worse to introduce non-native species to the pacific than it is to buy a fish from a non-mac retailer - "special" is a nice way of putting it. The retailer I purchased from might be a MAC retailer, I didn't bother checking - and I definately did not get a bargain, so it was not me being cheap.
 
Mike Dizon said:
Jsmith, I just came back from a short holiday. My bestfriend owns a resort here in the Philippines 4 hours away from my place. His beach resort is a perfect santuary area. I have been releasing fishes there regularly. Different fish everytime. Recently, 1 french and 1 Annularis Angelfish are what i released in the wild. These angelfishes are not endemic here so it is sort off special. Had it for almost 1 year already grew double the size.
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do you have any idea what kind of non native pathogens you could be releasing into the ecosystem by releasing a non native fish into your local waters? any fish that has been in aquarium for any length of time could have picked up any number of deseases that the local fish population can't deal with due to no prior exposure. in my opinion totally irresponsible.
 
Mike

Please dont do it. I think you mean well but...

And if you are going to continue to do it, dont let anybody else know about it.

If you cant figure out why you are getting the third degree from everyone, its time to hit the books(start with RC) or start your own bb.
 
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