Regal Angel Primer

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6638390#post6638390 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Da Bumsta
Hey Hozer, sorry it took so long. I have a 55g nitrated low all levels almost perfect in fact. tankmates. Bi-color that was in LFS with regal, clown, sailfin, foxface, niger trigger. Dont know what to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated..

First, WAY too many fish. The sailfin get's at leats 1.5 feet long, and the trigger gets at least a foot. The bicolor is going to be aggressive to any new angels, the sailfin as well and the trigger as well. Get that regal out to someone with a PEACEFUL tank.

Second, ammonia and nitrite and preferably nitrate should all be zero, not low, zero. Nitrate is tolerable to some fish, but I wouldn't bet that it's a good thing when trying to keep a regal.

Not to be rude, but as I stated earlier in this thread, I think people should research more before buying this fish, as more than 90 percent of them still die. This thread, as another has stated, gives people a false sense of how easy to take care of the regal angel is. So many success stories, so few failures (in comparison to all regals sold). I firmly believe that you should have more experience before trying a fish of this degree of difficulty.

I hope nobody takes offense to this, however I think it needed to be said. I see so many people in this thread that just ask questions like: what do i feed it, what needs to be done, etc...when there is a 40 page thread dedicated to the fish. If you're thinking about keeping this animal, is it too much to ask to actually research and read the whole thread? If you're not dedicated enough to do that, I don't think regals are your fish.
 
I'd be interested in some feedback. I have a RS Regal Angel on hold, likey to receive late next week. I have a 90 gallon display with 70 gallons in a plumbed-in sump & refugium. I have a Multi-colour dwarf angel, firefish, midas blenny, Orange shoulder wrasse, leopard wrasse & watchman goby, & clown goby. I am assuming that I have enough water volume in the system to add the Regal. My ammonia and nitrate are zero and I run a Deltec APF 600 (for up to 270 gallons).
Any advice before I recieve the fish? The Multi-colour dwarf is a little aggressive, but the rest of the tank is very peaceful.
 
Hozer I agree totally. I was told by an "expert" that he and I would be able to take care of him. As of today he is eating well, my sailfin and the regal have been transfered to a 150g reef tank. I am now building my refugium to get my levels correct. I appreciate your help.
 
Lotsa different conversations going on at the same time here so let me just pop in with a little update on my RSR. This is day 5 and the fish continues to do well. I have done a lot of experimenting with foods and so far I've had success with PE Mysis, Formula One (frozen), Formula Two (Frozen), Prime Reef (Frozen), Pro-V (Frozen), Fresh Clam, and Fresh Oyster. He also does a bit of picking at the live rock so he may be finding a pod or two as a snack. I have not gotten him to take any of the Seaweed Selects or Gracillaria yet but it may take him a while to learn those two. He has NOT disturbed any of the corals in the tank and that includes a half dozen zoanthids. Maybe he's simply too full. :p
 
I totally agree. The success rate of Regals are still very low. I know many people are posting their success stories ,but I am sure that a great deal of others with loses that just don't post for one reason or another.

I know of 2 LFS in town that will never carry Regals because they have never had one survive longer than 2 months.

Currently I am on my second RS Regal (had him 3 months now). The last one was eating well and fat too. But one day after 3 months he died with out any physical signs.

I don't consider a few weeks or few months success with Regals. If you are able to keep a Regal for years then those are true success stories.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6642327#post6642327 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kalare

Not to be rude, but as I stated earlier in this thread, I think people should research more before buying this fish, as more than 90 percent of them still die. This thread, as another has stated, gives people a false sense of how easy to take care of the regal angel is. So many success stories, so few failures (in comparison to all regals sold). I firmly believe that you should have more experience before trying a fish of this degree of difficulty.

I hope nobody takes offense to this, however I think it needed to be said. I see so many people in this thread that just ask questions like: what do i feed it, what needs to be done, etc...when there is a 40 page thread dedicated to the fish. If you're thinking about keeping this animal, is it too much to ask to actually research and read the whole thread? If you're not dedicated enough to do that, I don't think regals are your fish.
 
My first RS Regal did that too Typhon. I dunno how/why but a few months afterwards just friggin dropped dead.

My second one (IO yellow belly) was doing great (more than 2 years) and then I had a holding system disaster that wiped out EVERYTHING during my recent tank move.

My new one is eating some stuff, but I'm...not impressed. However, it's still fat and pooping, so I suppose it's getting enough, but I'm still not real....sanguine about it's long term chances....
 
How long have you had your new one?

Mine was the same way for the first 2-3 weeks then suddenly he began eating everything I put into the tank.

My IO/RS Regal is about 4.5". He is at least .5" bigger than my RS salfin and 1-1.5" bigger than my other tangs. The other tangs never bothered him except for the Purple Tang (which I removed and retroduced after 2 weeks). He will allow me to feed him straight from a turkey baster. Here is a pic of him.

RegalAngel2.jpg~original


Originally posted by moonpod
My first RS Regal did that too Typhon. I dunno how/why but a few months afterwards just friggin dropped dead.

My second one (IO yellow belly) was doing great (more than 2 years) and then I had a holding system disaster that wiped out EVERYTHING during my recent tank move.

My new one is eating some stuff, but I'm...not impressed. However, it's still fat and pooping, so I suppose it's getting enough, but I'm still not real....sanguine about it's long term chances....
 
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Give him some time. As long as he is still fat and picking on LR. Mine for the first 1 week would only pick on LR (That was enough to keep him fat). It wasn't until the middle of the 2nd week that he began eating nori off the clip. By the end of the 3rd week he was pushing the Tangs out of the way for mysis and formula II.


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6649154#post6649154 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by moonpod
2-3 weeks
 
Typhon, I'm not "impatient", it's more of a....it's not all that impressive vs my previous experience. Obviously it's doing ok. It's still fat and it must be eating something b/c something is coming out of it. But it just doesn't demonstrate the "gusto" of my previous ones.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6650006#post6650006 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by maxxII
64Ivy,
Where did you get yoru Regal from?

Nick

An LFS. I'd been looking for a 'good one' for several months when Greg notified me of this guy. They'd had it over a week already and it was eating pretty well.
 
64ivy, I have been lucky to get my angels to eat gracilaria by making a wrap with clams and mysis soaked in garlic, selcon and entice. I wrap the gracilaria around the food so it dont escape. (Tight as you can) and rubberband it to a rock. That gets the angels attention and after a week they destroy the gracilaria as soon as it drops without the food in it.
 
This is a picture of my Red Sea Regal Angel that I've had since April 05. I would guess it's about 4 1/2 to 5 inches.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6651021#post6651021 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Creetin
64ivy, I have been lucky to get my angels to eat gracilaria by making a wrap with clams and mysis soaked in garlic, selcon and entice. I wrap the gracilaria around the food so it dont escape. (Tight as you can) and rubberband it to a rock. That gets the angels attention and after a week they destroy the gracilaria as soon as it drops without the food in it.

I bet there are restaurants in NYC that would charge $22.50 apiece for those. It's the rock that makes it 'hip'.

Thanks. I'll give it a try.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6652968#post6652968 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nctangman
Jeff,

Your fish looks nice and fat..Where did you get it from?
I got it from vivid aquarium.
 
My regal is doing MUCH better after I got the damsels out. It is starting to venture out and it stays a while out of curiousity when I pass in front of the tank, but hides after a while. Slowly but surely. I see him going after brine shrimp and mysis, been feeding the tank HEAVILY to make sure he gets plenty to eat!

Also, he has been picking at the rocks. Plenty of sponge and other stuff for him to nibble on. Has not touched a single zoo or other coral in my tank. Now to roll the dice again and get a copper band butterfly. ;-)

-Alfred
 
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