regarding misbar anemonefish

[Gary Majchrzak]

most people don't understand that raising a clown with normal bars is HARDER than raising a misbar. They think that misbars are something special - and are willing to pay more for them... So if you are a breeder, which would you raise? -BosaiNut

I couldn't have said it any better myself!

 

[PufferNut]

Is this really true? And if so why/ I happened to pick up a misbar at petco about a week ago, it was the same price as a regular percula.

 

[toddmh]

well yeah..pretty much everything bred in captive conditions,has a better survival rate than their wild counterparts

 

[acdraindrps]

I'm pretty sure ORA sells their misbar clowns for less than regular bars.

Also, I don't think it is harder to raise a misbar. They seem to be less common in a clutch though.

 

[Gary Majchrzak]

fyi:

fyi:

"misbar clowns" include Picasso, Platinum (etc.) percula

 

[scionreefing]

it get a few misbars in when i order clownfish at my store but they are black perculas most of the time. my false percs rarely come in misbared.

 

[ryan_]

most people don't understand that raising a clown with normal bars is HARDER than raising a misbar. They think that misbars are something special - and are willing to pay more for them... So if you are a breeder, which would you raise? -BosaiNut

I couldn't have said it any better myself!

I believe that the reason people pay more for these clowns (such as picassos and snowflakes) is because you cant just go to petco to pick one up. They are more rare then regular clowns. I myself am a huge fan of the picassos and snowflakes. They are, infact, the reason I started my first reef tank.

When I came out here and went to ARC, that was the first time I had seen them in a store in numbers. There was a store in Colorado that had 1 pair but they priced them so high (on purpose) that no one would buy them.

I dont see a problem with them being pricier. If someone is willing to pay that, then by all means.

There are many people breeding "regular clowns" and only a few breeding the misbars. I would post links to both but Im not sure RC would allow it (and I havent built my reef site yet) and I would rather pay more for captive bred than wild caught IMO.

No offense, just flipping the coin.

 

[mr86mister]

I'd pay more for a pure bred Neopolitan Mastiff than a Parson Russell Terrier. I think it has to do with what is bred out, in terms of looks of the fish. A Platinum or Midnight clownfish look different than the usual clown's and are much more distinct. (That explains why people are willing to pay more)

I am also willing to pay more for a Platinum(especially a pair) to get them to breed. The fantastic choice with that, as you have pointed out Gary, is they are easier to breed because they are tank raised and have a much stronger immune system to aquaria life.

These have already been said, but I agree with the original post by BosaiNut.

 

[Flanders]

I really, really dislike them. if there's one thing nature already got right, it's the clownfish.

 

[ryan_]

actually, the misbar has been found in the wild. I dont have the link now, but I can get it.

 

[mr86mister]

Ryan is right, misbar's have been found in the wild and on occasion show up with a wild caught batch. You cant breed a mutation unless you have that mutation to start with.

*I'm just waiting for my Albino version of the clownfish to show up somewhere*

 

[nate4546]

"misbar clowns" include Picasso, Platinum (etc.) percula

I disagree with this comment Picasso,Platinum,ect are overbarred not misbarred

Misbar =incomplete bars

 

[Gary Majchrzak]

I don't know how many of you have bred clownfish.... but I have.
(That's why I quoted BosaiNut!)

This thread has nothing to do with the pricing scheme of misbars or whether or not one likes misbars although if you really want to evaluate it "normal" barred clownfish are a bargain.

I used to cull my misbars. My bad!

 

[toddmh]

I must have taken the quote the wrong way..I was thinking he ment that "normal" bars as wild caught and "misbar" as captive bred..My bad..

 

[mr86mister]

Haha, me too Todd. Oooops!

 

[oneradtek202]

double post

 

[oneradtek202]

i agree with the raising portion for sure, raising clowns that come out right is alot harder. Some people think that temp fluctuations and malnutrition of the fry can cause they mutations


and i have raised clowns personally, so this is "IME" of course

 

[acdraindrps]

You cant breed a mutation unless you have that mutation to start with.

This doesn't sit right with me. I am not sure what influences a "misbar" or "overbar" on a clownfish, but I have bred misbarred clowns from perfectly barred parents. I think I remember reading somewhere that diet during metamorphosis can have an effect.

 

[Gary Majchrzak]

IME diet during met is definitely a major factor

 

[epicfish]

Ryan is right, misbar's have been found in the wild and on occasion show up with a wild caught batch. You cant breed a mutation unless you have that mutation to start with.

*I'm just waiting for my Albino version of the clownfish to show up somewhere*

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