Returned from LA, Never say “Live Fish!!!”

cerreta

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So I promised myself not to overspend since I was flying and would certainly have troubles with shipping. Of course I don’t listen. I bought several sps coral, a 10 pack of zoos, and a Joker Protopalythoa, very similar to the PPE, but it has a softer purple/pink center and is very rare. It was in fact the only of its kind and was worth every cent. It was a very nice piece too, with about 20 polyps.

Back to the story. All the corals were packed into a styro box that is the proper width and height of a check-on bag, but it was about 8” longer. Weight was 28lbs. As I checked the other bag in, the not-so-pleasant bag checker asked what I planned to do with the styro box. I stated that I was going to carry it on the plane. She said no, it was too big and would have to be checked. I was prepared for this possibility so I did not argue. However, she claimed that Styrofoam boxes can not go under the aircraft. So, I pleaded to carry it on and revealed that it was live fish, thinking that they would not understand what live coral was, since I actually had no fish, just corals. She shrieked at the idea of Live fish and said no way. She conspired with her co-worker who also shrieked and they promplty called the manager. He also said “no-way” and I was stuck.

After brainstorming with Katherine on what to do we were discussing how to ship the corals and Katherine makes a loud enough comment to be overheard, “I don’t understand the big deal with trying to carry on a bunch of rocks!” Which is kinda what she thinks about these things and my hobby anyways. . . hehehe. So, the ladies are now feeling sorry for us and question the contents of the mysterious styro box. They both look at each other and say “corals?, oh that’s ok. I did not argue that they were alive, but I image they were thinking of dead coral skeletons.

Anyhow, after inquiring about how full the flight was, I bartered to carry the contents aboard claiming that since the flight is not more than ¾ full, there should be plenty of space above the seats to store the box. They agreed and off I went, whew! Good thing I arrived two hours early, because that took 45 minutes.

Oh, it does not end there either. I need to learn to just stay quiet about these things. When checking in at the terminal I immediately went to the counter and recounted the story to the flight attendants about my oversized styro box. They said it was cool, so that proved to be a wise move.

Now, feeling a bit more confidence that all was ok, a passenger behind me in line asked what was in the box. So, I proudly announced it was live coral. She says, “oh” with a rude tone. Then she continues, “sorry, I just think those belong in the ocean.” So I went on to discuss that these were for my aquarium and most were aquacultured corals. She had no idea what I was saying, and I truly believe she thought that I collected these in the California Pacific Ocean. HaHaHa, like there is anything in there I would want in my reef tank!

Lesson learned, keep the boxes small, don’t have a Styrofoam container, and don’t tell anyone what you are packing. Even the security scanner people did not care. If you do have to tell some, be sure to say corals, not fish, they are likely not to get it anyways.
 
Scott,
should have warned you about an open styrofoam box. I though you were just going to carry them in a small duffle bag. The reason they don't like styrofoam in the luggage compartment is they break to easy. I have family members that work for the airlines. Like you said keep the contents to yourself and use a standard size carry on.

glad to here you found some deals. how did you like tongs displays? the one on the back left side use to have about 100 RBT ranging from orange to pink with every combo inbetween. I don't think it was still up when I left but he doesn't like to sell anything out of the displays unless its dying. He has been know to frag it and sell it before it dies so be warned.
 
The RBT tank is gone. That tank you describe is a display only tank now. Nothing for sale in there. The others all have corals for sale. He also has two large 500gallon vats in the back room for frags only. I was escorted to the back and welcomed to select anything I wanted. The selection was tops. Very vibrant and rare corals found here. Frags ranged from $15 to whatever. I was in a hurry at this time, so I left this room empty handed only to regret not getting something in there.
 
From the pics, all the lights looked actinic. This is a trick online sites use to make the corals look vibrant. They also airbrush them in photoshop. Unless your tank is also 20K only it will not look the same. The coral wil be super bright for a few days or weeks then will adjust to your lighting. Seen this quite a few times in my own tanks when bringing items back from LA. The superman frags I have in my shop under 10k look brown. They were super Blue and red in LA though when I bought them. I have seen some retail stores using this trick in Tampa and California as well.
 
Rob, while I agree that lighting effects coral coloration and growth, I disagree that it is a trick. Most hobbyists now use MH lighting in the 14k to 20k range. Most have even abandoned the 10k with vho actinics.

On the flip side, many retail stores choose to use vho lighting on reef tanks or 10k MHs. Furthermore, I find it a common practice of stores to neglect cleaning the bulbs (salt creap all over the bulbs) and often extend bulb life to two plus years or even continue using them until they burn out.

Thus, the tank and coral appearance reflects this practice. If corals are not sold soon, then the corals tend to bleach, lack proper color, lack proper growth, and eventually will become an unsellable coral and die in the LFS.

So, what you refer to as a trick is what I refer to as a properly lit reef system. The corals sold from these tanks are more likely to look the same when I place them in my tank. In fact, I can assure you that the corals I just bought in Ca look the same in my tank as those pictures.


I would certainly like to see more LFSs install better lighting systems with 14k to 20k MH and use proper lamp maintenance, like replacing and cleaning when needed.
 
Scott,
From the pics all I see are MH, you mentioned they were 1000W ers, they kinda look like 20K, do they make a 1000W 20K bulb? I am very curious as I was going to go with a couple of 400W 20K on a light mover for my frag tank. Its finally up, just have to build a skimmer and the CA reactor.

I PM you about possibly Sun, AM visit.
 
They don't keep their corals in those places to see the die off lol. They probably turn those tanks over every week on the internet.
 
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