ribbon eel? white? blue?

thats a shame ashtree, the ghost ribbons are cool.

ok so then dont QT, have lots of hiding spots (have PVC and LR in the tank), and be prepared to feed them only live? ill go see how much their shipping to AK is.

on acclimating them, should i float the bag and then add 1 cup of water to the bag for an hour then put him in the tank?
 
In my opinion, I don't think it matters much if you're just driving from the LFS to home. It would matter more if you were shipping overnight as eels produce lots of waste, which isn't good in a small, closed environment like the shipping bag. If you see it eat, I'd go ahead and take it home.

That being said, it is very important to properly acclimate your eel to your water conditions and temp before adding it to your tank. It's also important to give your eel some tubes to call home. When I added mine to the tank, I guided him into the eel tube as they are nearly blind and I didn't want him hunting around and stressing himself out trying to find a comfy place to settle in.

I didn't actually witness my eel eat before purchase, but the LFS I got him from is reputable and I spoke to the eel-lover there who personally oversaw his care. I made sure to have in my tank the foods he was known to be eating in the store (ghost shrimp) right from the start. If your LFS is having success feeding something else, buy that from the store and take it home with you.

I can imagine that shipping to AK could be daunting, but I only had to buy one lot of 50 marine ghost shrimp. That was enough to get my eel settled in and eating happily, and bought me enough time to slowly and comfortably get him transitioned to frozen food. I wish it weren't so expensive to get more as it is totally cool getting to watch the eel hunt them down. Time and time again, the biggest complaint I've seen from people who want to have predatory fish (eels, lionfish, anglers, etc.) is the cost of providing them a diet of live food, especially if they can't transition to frozen. If you want this type of animal, you have to be prepared to spend the money to provide an on-going diet of whatever they will eat, no matter what that may be.

I have a mandarin that won't eat anything but pods (not in the same tank as the eel). Doesn't matter what I offer, even live adult brine shrimp, BBS, mysis, whatever. He won't eat prepared and he won't eat any other live foods. So, I have to make sure I have a steady supply of pods, which usually means buying a container of them every month at the LFS ($20/month) to ensure my population stays healthy. You can't count on your ability as an aquarist or the animal's appetite to reliably make them eat the food you want to give them.

Also, I didn't QT my eel. Getting them settled into any tank is difficult enough, so why make them go through it twice by going into the QT and then the display? Any meds or hypo you might do in QT would just make settling in that much more difficult for the eel. It's my understanding that eels have increased immunity to diseases like ich due to their thick slime coat. I have two skunk cleaner shrimp in my tank with the eel, and I've seen them cleaning him once or twice, so it was a gamble I took. Not to say you should go one way or the other on that, just relating my experience.

i see you did not QT ur eel.

i did QT the Ghost ribbon eel when i got him. as stated earlier in the thread i did have to rearrange the rocks to make him comfortable. He took QT very well.

Got him into the 55gal after moving the rocks. took about a month to eat frozen silversizes. he is doing great.

I have right now in QT a Green wolf eel. got him yesterday and already eatin frozen!!

i think the blue and black ribbon eels are harder to get to eat frozen

i would put the eel through qt. a 29 would be good. thats what im using to qt
 
QT is good with any fish esp ones that are harder to get to eat, that way theres not competition to feed and you can make sure they're eating.
 
wait so then i should or shouldnt QT the ribbon eel? the only QT i have up right now is a 10g. i can set up a 29 but itll be a month or so before i feel its fish ready.
 
I would QT, just to make sure it is eating. Slime coat or not, you never know and it is best to be safe. My lfs has a black ribbon they are trying to talk me into. Guess no one around here has a tank capable of holding one.
 
ill see if i can set up the 29 as a QT for now then.

im curious, what makes the white ribbon eel easier to care for than the blue/black ribbon eel?
 
ill see if i can set up the 29 as a QT for now then.

im curious, what makes the white ribbon eel easier to care for than the blue/black ribbon eel?

the ghost is closer related to the moray family.

look at the faces of both animals. the ghost looks more like the eels most people are familiar with.

if u just search the internet you will find few sucess stories with the blue or black ones.

another thing is these eels have not been in the hobby very long.

their is not alot of knowedge about them. or any long term storied about them. so its really hard to judge how to car for them. my ghost is about 2ft long now. swims all the time. and sleeps in a crevis in the corner of 2 rocks.

i guess i got lucky so far. i would love to here from anyone who has had sucess with blue or black ribbon eels.

if im not mistaken the black vs blue is just a different part of the maturity stage. black is less mature than blue.
 
29 is a good choice for QT. As for feeling it is ready, while you are getting it setup, get your filter pad soaking in your current tank or sump. A added benefit would be using stability. I use it everytime I QT a new addition and unless they are difficult to keep alive, I haven't lost one. Just remember that some species have a bad track record and it isn't a cure all for your tank.
 
ok so then the fact that the white ribbons are more of a moray then the blacks/blues is why they are 'easier' than the blacks/blues? i guess thatll suffice for me for now.

i guess its us hobbiest that take on the challenge to raise these eels will be providing much needed knowledge on the ribbon eels lol.

yes the black ribbon eel is an immature blue ribbon eel, i looked it up to be sure :P

rayn- oh ok for my 10g QT i had a filter pad in my 55 for 2 months then ripped off a chunk and left it in the QT for 2 weeks. the filter pad is still in the 55 and is approaching 4ish months so that should help a lot lol. would biospira work also? i used that for my 55 and in a week i had fish in the tank. still have those fish.
 
if im not mistaken the eels in general have an abve average rate of survival during qt. both of my eels did and are doing excelllent through QT.

another benifit to QT is indiviual training of food and attention. so once they grow up and are trained they can go with the other fish.

i would recoment to qt all fish.

my first tank i did not qt any of them and it was a HUGE HEADACHE later. now i have learned my lesson. i would recomend you do it no matter what u think.
 
DoubleM I agree. One mistake can cause major headaches later.

Palmer, it looks the same as both add beneficial bacteria. I say use what you know and trust there. If your pad has been in for 4 months you should be plenty good to go too.
 
DoubleM I agree. One mistake can cause major headaches later.

Palmer, it looks the same as both add beneficial bacteria. I say use what you know and trust there. If your pad has been in for 4 months you should be plenty good to go too.

i think rayn hit it right on the head. you would be ok
 
lol ok, ill go see what he got in tomarow. if he has a small one ill get that one on hold. how long should i wait before i pick it up? just when i see him eat or something? id feel more comfortable if i left him there a week or two.
 
lol ok, ill go see what he got in tomarow. if he has a small one ill get that one on hold. how long should i wait before i pick it up? just when i see him eat or something? id feel more comfortable if i left him there a week or two.

if he will let you do a week or so then thats what i will do. gives you time to prepare and to make sure the fish will have a better chance of survival in ur tank.
 
I'm so glad to read this article since I just got a blue ribbon yesterday. He was at the fish store > 2 months and was eating small damsels (they were feeding silversides too). He was in that bare tank with just a PVC pipe for so long and they had just put a small snowflake in with him too.

I went in there a couple of days and asked to see him eat. First they just put the silversides on the bottom and of course the snowflake found them, not the ribbon. Second day I asked for some tongs and waved it in front of the ribbon (after I gave a few to the snowflake since he definitely knew what the tongs were for!). I got the ribbon to eat frozen, so I went ahead and got him.

He was swimming around my tank a lot (forgot that since my tank is a reef, the flow is a lot higher than the LFS tank). Also, my other two golden dwarf moray's are hiding now since they are spooked by the bigger ribbon (though his mouth and width isn't bigger, just the length, LOL). He's gotten adjusted and is calmer now. How long to try and get him to eat again? Should I continue with the silversides since he ate that before or entice him with something else (and risk getting him spoiled to the silversides?).
 
I'm so glad to read this article since I just got a blue ribbon yesterday. He was at the fish store > 2 months and was eating small damsels (they were feeding silversides too). He was in that bare tank with just a PVC pipe for so long and they had just put a small snowflake in with him too.

I went in there a couple of days and asked to see him eat. First they just put the silversides on the bottom and of course the snowflake found them, not the ribbon. Second day I asked for some tongs and waved it in front of the ribbon (after I gave a few to the snowflake since he definitely knew what the tongs were for!). I got the ribbon to eat frozen, so I went ahead and got him.

He was swimming around my tank a lot (forgot that since my tank is a reef, the flow is a lot higher than the LFS tank). Also, my other two golden dwarf moray's are hiding now since they are spooked by the bigger ribbon (though his mouth and width isn't bigger, just the length, LOL). He's gotten adjusted and is calmer now. How long to try and get him to eat again? Should I continue with the silversides since he ate that before or entice him with something else (and risk getting him spoiled to the silversides?).

well eels in general can go on hunger strikes for a week or 2 if they want.

i would go with the silversides. my ribbon eats mysis when i drop them in the tank for the other fish. then i fill him up with silversides.

i feed 3 times a week. and i feed untill he refuses to take another.

my ribbon did the same thing as urs when first got in. swam all day and night till he calmed down. i made him a spot to live and has been their eversince'

he comes out about once a day that i see and cuises the tank to see whats up.

glad u got a good eel. blues and blacks are harder but glad you found one that the hard part is over with
 

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