ridiculous ich outbreak!! need help

[Zacktosterone]

Correct. Using a cleaner wrasse to try and control/eradicate ich is an effort in futility. Ich is below the skin, cleaner wrasses do not eat ich.

I agree

 

[Reefer22153]

That is as wrong as it gets.

 

[Reefer22153]

This is a huge debate, but for those like myself who have witnessed it time after time, you cannot convince me to otherwise. These cleaner wrasses literally chase down tangs for their ich. Tangs will turn sideways to get cleaned. Unless you have seen it, you may not believe it.

 

[sreefs]

This is a huge debate, but for those like myself who have witnessed it time after time, you cannot convince me to otherwise. These cleaner wrasses literally chase down tangs for their ich. Tangs will turn sideways to get cleaned. Unless you have seen it, you may not believe it.

It feels good to the fish, but it does nothing to get rid of the parasite. Not trying to burst your bubble, but cleaners DO NOT CURE ICH.

 

[Zacktosterone]

It feels good to the fish, but it does nothing to get rid of the parasite. Not trying to burst your bubble, but cleaners DO NOT CURE ICH.

I agree, if they did my friends wouldn't have issues by not quarantining

 

[reeferstace]

Ich is caused by the protozoan ICHTHYOPTHIRIUS, which is an ectoparasite. ECTOparasite means external parasite as opposed to ENDOparasite which you suggested.

I'm assuming you have never witnessed cleaner wrasses go to work on ich.

:facepalm:

Marine ich is caused by Cryptocaryon irritans. The protozoans you are speaking about cause freshwater ich. Apples and oranges.

:headwally:

 

[snorvich]

This is a huge debate, but for those like myself who have witnessed it time after time, you cannot convince me to otherwise. These cleaner wrasses literally chase down tangs for their ich. Tangs will turn sideways to get cleaned. Unless you have seen it, you may not believe it.

Debate? Hardly. I have had cleaner wrasse and cleaner shrimp clean my teeth many times (in my 3000 plus dives) and I am reasonably sure I do not have ich which in marine fish is under the skin and not available for consumption. Also, if you use Google Scholar you can find the assays of the stomach contents of cleaner wrasse and cleaner shrimp in various marine biology papers and it does not include marine ich. But if you believe its true, good luck.

 

[Zacktosterone]

This is a huge debate, but for those like myself who have witnessed it time after time, you cannot convince me to otherwise. These cleaner wrasses literally chase down tangs for their ich. Tangs will turn sideways to get cleaned. Unless you have seen it, you may not believe it.

What you witnessed is ich's life cycle

 

[wooden_reefer]

Debate? Hardly. I have had cleaner wrasse and cleaner shrimp clean my teeth many times (in my 3000 plus dives) and I am reasonably sure I do not have ich which in marine fish is under the skin and not available for consumption. Also, if you use Google Scholar you can find the assays of the stomach contents of cleaner wrasse and cleaner shrimp in various marine biology papers and it does not include marine ich. But if you believe its true, good luck.

Even if the cleaner wrasse does eat some ich on the fish, it cannot eat all.

The way ich reproduces is very overwhelming in a closed system. Ich comes in ever increasing numbers if ever it gets the upperhand. There would be few for a long period and then explode in population.

The lifecycle of ich and the closed nature of the tank are a very striking set of conditions.