Riptide Gyre question

[avandss]

Hey guys, i have just replace my ecotech/jabo pumps with a riptide, i get much more flow in the tank, i buddy of mine has a 120g tank with mostly sps and some softies and wanted to replace his 2 mp40's with a single gyre, however he said he will need to move his corals around as they are use to the flow and it would disrupt them, personally i can not comment yet as i have no experience yet but i have seen so many serious setups swapping out pump with no ill effect

any opinions on this?

(please this is not a WHAT PUMP IS BETTER discuss, it is a flow question)

thank you!

 

[phenom5]

Unless he's got something that prefers lower flow that starts getting blasted, I can see the need to rearrange all his corals because he's swapping out pumps. They'll adapt just fine.

 

[ZON]

I replace 2 mp40 with a sinlge gyre..but i keep other 2 vortech on the opposite side..gyre is not enough for my tank..( also must clean often for max flow)

 

[avandss]

Unless he's got something that prefers lower flow that starts getting blasted, I can see the need to rearrange all his corals because he's swapping out pumps. They'll adapt just fine.

Thanks, it is exactly what i was thinking

 

[avandss]

I replace 2 mp40 with a sinlge gyre..but i keep other 2 vortech on the opposite side..gyre is not enough for my tank..( also must clean often for max flow)

OK... but did it negatively affect your corals in any way?

my friend is convinced its to late for him to change pumps because his corals are use to the flow of his current setup. and he says gyre flow is different hence he would have to change everything around.

 

[ZON]

Is true.. But Corals can adpt well if they are healty..

 

[ajcanale]

I've said this on a lot of threads and nearly two months later I believe it more than ever. The Gyre destroys MP40's. One gyre replaced two MP40's + a Tunze Comline Wavebox + 2 Hydor 1150 powerheads in my 5x2x2 system. I run constant mode @ 60% (24hours compared to having MP40's go into night mode) and it vastly outperforms the previous setup.

I had to increase 2 part dosing over 4x from when I starting using the Gyre due to boosted growth of stony corals, most of which are acro's. I've since added a calcium reactor to the mix. Tyree Blue Matrix, which had been a very slow grower, has almost doubled in size in the given time frame.

 

[2012Denali]

God I gotta order one of them

 

[Chrisjbarry]

I switched from 3 wp40s plus a lot of flow from my return. My sps love the flow as well. I have to agree with ajcanale some slower growers seem to like the new flow.

 

[purplereef]

I noticed one of my chalices instantly unfolded one of its edges the minute I plugged in the Gyre pump. I don't really understand the undertoe yet because it seems like it is not really moving that much water. Maybe looks are very much deceiving here. It is probably moving a lot more water then it looks like so far.

 

[fishguy597]

To the op I don't know the answer.Santa did bring me one for Christmas so I'll find out. I have a 7'long 200. 1 gyre puts a whoopin on 2 mp40's. But 1 gyre isn't enough for my tank. I took the 2 mp4s and put them both to the opposite side of the gyre. The coral are loving it at the moment. I need more apoxy to mount my coral.

 

[doctorwhoreefer]

I got a 2nd because I didn't want to hide my corals behind rocks. (otherwise they get pretty much CONSTANT flow from one side)

After adding the 2nd pump and using the apex to alternate, maybe a few days to a week later all the corals perked up.

They'll shrink a bit at first because it's a different flow, but they easily adapt. Again though, my suggestion is if you only have one gyre pump, hide corals behind things, so there's something between the oncoming flow and the coral. (the reverse is a joke with the pump)

 

[purplereef]

I got a 2nd because I didn't want to hide my corals behind rocks. (otherwise they get pretty much CONSTANT flow from one side)

After adding the 2nd pump and using the apex to alternate, maybe a few days to a week later all the corals perked up.

They'll shrink a bit at first because it's a different flow, but they easily adapt. Again though, my suggestion is if you only have one gyre pump, hide corals behind things, so there's something between the oncoming flow and the coral. (the reverse is a joke with the pump)

So you are not running this pump in reverse at all? I noticed it seems pretty weak in reverse as well. I think the idea is awesome to run it in reverse flow for 12 hours, therefore simulating the tides of the ocean.

 

[phenom5]

I think you'd need 2 in order to reverse the flow every 12 hours. The reverse mode just doesn't move water very well at all, and if it did, it would kick up some serious sand (if you have substrate).

 

[Piper27]

I am seriously disappointed in the reverse mode. Doesn't move much water whatsoever. Without another pump opposite of the gyre the tank water is almost idle in my 40 breeder with the pump in reverse. I would not run the gyre as a stand alone pump in any of my tanks. I think I am going to switch the pump parts so each side of the pump runs opposite of each other, this way I have no downtime in flow.

 

[avandss]

I am seriously disappointed in the reverse mode. Doesn't move much water whatsoever. Without another pump opposite of the gyre the tank water is almost idle in my 40 breeder with the pump in reverse. I would not run the gyre as a stand alone pump in any of my tanks. I think I am going to switch the pump parts so each side of the pump runs opposite of each other, this way I have no downtime in flow.

well i disagree. it lifts the sand bed on the opposite side of my 265 (86'' long)

i see my fish all over the tank swimming against the current, you either have a defective unit or something is up, this pump would destroy a 40!

 

[Piper27]

I said in reverse mode, in forward it has a great plane of linear flow which does move a long way. In reverse mine doesn't move much water at all.

 

[avandss]

I said in reverse mode, in forward it has a great plane of linear flow which does move a long way. In reverse mine doesn't move much water at all.

Obviously I cant read

However to go back on topic I don't think you need reverse mode for coral growth/health

The gyre effect seems to be well accepted by corals

 

[Piper27]

Yea its nice but I was hoping for a nice reverse to keep my bottom clean, crud still sits on the floor of my tank. I think once I upgrade to the wider tank the coral placement will open up and I can turn the forward flow on more than 40 percent. I still run a mp40 opposite of the gyre on 100 percent reefcrest. They really did overhype the reverse mode in marketing though, and that is one of the main selling points of their product. I think running two on either side of the tank will help dislodge any dead spots on the bottom, but only on tanks that are not to tall and wide. Again I haven't played with it much so maybe there is a better option for me like running it so one side of the pump is pushing forward while the other running reverse. Anyone have better luck with this option?

I don't think that you need the reverse mode for good health or growth either. But if you run this pump in constant forward mode all the time, your corals are going to grow with the direction of the flow. I can't stand that, I have to have very strong turbulent flow in my tank to get tight thick growth, which is when acros look the most beautiful IMO. Corals growing with flow direction or branching out long and skinny because of weak flow areas doesn't float my boat

 

[fishguy597]

Check out the you tube alternating gyre mode. It works when you change the wheels out but it's only half the flow since you are changing directions of one of the wheels.