RPS all-out... take 2 !

[aqua80]

don't worry I'll go on till eggs all hatched or mille encrust them...

here is today's pic :

not sure what are the dots in/on some of the eggs, but it seems it is moving and maybe outside the eggs...

 

[MammothReefer]

So if the milli encrusts over them and smoothers them. Is it a tie?

 

[watchguy123]

Been following this for a while. As everyone else, hoping that there is a treatment that successfully kills not only AEFW but the dastardly eggs. Have been a fan of Bayer for a couple of years almost now. I use other preventative measures like cutting frags from plugs in an effort to avoid eggs--it certainly is not sure proof but hopefully an effective measure.

Anyway, my question is do we have the technical knowledge to look at these photos and determine whether the eggs are viable or not. The pictures and documentation are remarkable but do we understand what we are looking at. I for one can not distinguish a viable egg from a deceased or even hatched egg

 

[Andre@ReefAquat]

seems like these eggs really has got us by the "short and curlys" Its a bit too dormant for my liking, maybe a good sign ?

 

[Northside Reef]

Well I do not know if RPS All Out kills AEFW eggs, but I just learned the hard way it does not kill Montipora Eating Nudibranch eggs. A very good club member had a battle with them. I recently purchased a frag of one of his very nice teal colored Montis. He warned me well in advance that he was battling them. When I went to pick it up he even tried to talk me out of taking it because we were not sure if had won the battle or not.

He dipped the frag in RPS right in front of me, he insisted on it. I also have two bottles of the stuff at home so I dipped again before I put it in the QT tank.

Well that was about three weeks ago.

Tonight I pulled this off of that frag: a bit smooshed by the tweezers but there is still no mistaking what it was. Sorry for the bad news guys.

 

[turtlespd]

Anyone think these eggs are still there because they are no longer fertile? And maybe the product does work as advertised? I don't recall seeing eggs aroundin one spot for that long. Anyone knowits life cycle?

 

[Piper27]

Anyone think these eggs are still there because they are no longer fertile? And maybe the product does work as advertised? I don't recall seeing eggs aroundin one spot for that long. Anyone knowits life cycle?

Read the whole thread, both of those topics have been discussed.

 

[bobssecrtsn]

any updates ??

 

[BrentH]

I have been battling nudis for awhile
Myself what has been working is getting crazy with the super glue any spot thys questionable of having nudi eggs I just cover with super glue . Been working great

Well I do not know if RPS All Out kills AEFW eggs, but I just learned the hard way it does not kill Montipora Eating Nudibranch eggs. A very good club member had a battle with them. I recently purchased a frag of one of his very nice teal colored Montis. He warned me well in advance that he was battling them. When I went to pick it up he even tried to talk me out of taking it because we were not sure if had won the battle or not.

He dipped the frag in RPS right in front of me, he insisted on it. I also have two bottles of the stuff at home so I dipped again before I put it in the QT tank.

Well that was about three weeks ago.

Tonight I pulled this off of that frag: a bit smooshed by the tweezers but there is still no mistaking what it was. Sorry for the bad news guys.

 

[aqua80]

here it is :

I begin to think that the reddish dots are embryos developping in the eggs...
but there seems to be not many of them in each egg...
maybe the dip killed some of them ?

2 dips a couple of days apart might do the trick ?
we will need a new test to know...

 

[SpinyReef]

I don't know how much you value this milli, but you could save the experiment by carefully aplying some superglue to the part that's about to encrust over the eggs

 

[CIGARSC351W]

I'm battling Acro eating Nudibranchs in one of my tanks. I used RPS All-Out over the weekend to dip 17 colonies. I used a graduated cylinder to measure and followed the instructions to the letter. 8 of the colonies were deep water sp. (turaki, carduus, echinata, loripes ect.) 24 hours later all of the deep water species had completely melted and the other 9 colonies (tortuosa, nana, plana, hyacinthus) have browned out but are still alive.
The water quality in the system is spot on and unchanged from the week prior to the dipping.

I'm not trying to hate. I'm just passing on my experience. IMHO this product is very harsh on Acro's.

 

[Allmost]

I am going to try to take pics of some eggs in my system, to see how they develop over a month, without a dip, perhaps we could compare those to see ....
thanks again for keeping us posted on your experiment.

 

[aqua80]

I don't know how much you value this milli, but you could save the experiment by carefully aplying some superglue to the part that's about to encrust over the eggs

I'll have a close look on him

I am going to try to take pics of some eggs in my system, to see how they develop over a month, without a dip, perhaps we could compare those to see ....
thanks again for keeping us posted on your experiment.

that would be great !
feel free to post your shots in this thread...

 

[madkeenreefer]

Ouin .... nous pouvons voir que l'été est arrivé au Qc..

Hope all is going well with your test, the next few shots should realy be interesting.

lache pas..

 

[aqua80]

Ouin .... nous pouvons voir que l'été est arrivé au Qc..

Hope all is going well with your test, the next few shots should realy be interesting.

lache pas..

hehe yes cycling season ;-)

eggs still there...
for an unknow reason the mille is receding near the eggs...

sorry for the blurry pic...

 

[flamron]

Defense mechanism of the eggs?

 

[asylumdown]

I can't remember where I read it, but somewhere in my searching on AEFW I read that eggs produce an allelopathic chemical that inhibits the growth of coral tissue specifically so that they don't get smothered by new encrusting growth before they can hatch.

 

[rtbm]

So 35 days in and no babys yet. Interesting for sure. Doesn't seem to be much activity in there lately either.

 

[flamron]

I can't remember where I read it, but somewhere in my searching on AEFW I read that eggs produce an allelopathic chemical that inhibits the growth of coral tissue specifically so that they don't get smothered by new encrusting growth before they can hatch.

And if they do actually do that and are doing that, does that mean the eggs are still viable? To me the answer is yes if the eggs are "working".