Ruturn pump question

archer8681

archer8681

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Ok, so I got my Eheim 1262. There is an intake adapter that can get attached if the pump is being operated outside of the sump. When operating submerged, the manual states "must only be operated using the built-in prefilter. For this purpose, cover the intake grill aperture with the cap" Now doing it this way, there is a sponge filter inside the pump I guess to keep junk out of the pumpand the water enter the pump through opening on the side.

This is question. Will having this sponge filter in my setup with a refugium prevent 'good stuff' from returning to the main tank?
 
Re: Ruturn pump question

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8566430#post8566430 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by archer8681
Will having this sponge filter in my setup with a refugium prevent 'good stuff' from returning to the main tank?
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Wouldn't think so. The "good stuff" should pass through the sponge (I would guess).

Is there a possibility of something larger, such as a snail, getting into the return pump?

If not, why would you even need the sponge....just stick on the cap (slotted?).
 
I have the same pump. Yes it is slotted. You could remove the prefilter i did it with my current return pump that i had before the eheim. I would have to say it does help keep the impeller assb. much cleaner. As well as prolong the life and condition of the magnet.
 
The flow from the fuge has eggcrate on the top of the divider so nothing too large should be able to get through that.

I guess then its a choice of maintenance. Clean the sponge filter often (every 1-2 weeks?) or the impeller assembly less often (once a month?)

I know manufacturers state things, in this case use the sponge, probably for the reason Chris stated. Damn I hate decisions!
 
Most likely when i install my new eheim 1262 I'll run it spongeless;)

You do need to clean the sponge more often. I clean and service every pump in my tank monthly. Anal like that i guess. I don't let them get coraline on them. So they stay spotless anyways.

Just my opinion.. All depends on your prefernece.

Kris

PS: Kris With a K;) Everyone spells my name wrong! :rolleyes:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8566590#post8566590 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lakeside518


PS: Kris With a K;) Everyone spells my name wrong! :rolleyes:
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opps, sry

I guess no sponge and once a month, sounds like the plan.

PS -Saw Ryan yesterday, he was real happy to catch up with you!
 
I notice alot of you guys are using the ehiems over the mag-drive pumps...

do they provide more flow with less wattage or something ?

I'm currently using a mag 9.5 on my 90 which is a tad bit overkill in some people's eyes ??

What is the 1262 pushing for GPH ?? oh and how much do they cost vs: mag drives

:)
 
The Eheim is definitely more expensive. I went with it based on info I have read about it. Many seem to say its quieter. Also comparing the specs to the mag, it does use less electricity. The 1262 I purchased may be too much flow for my 90 RR, but I have built in a tee return to the sump in my return plumbing to reduce the flow back to the tank.

All this sounds great on paper, but I will see the results in the next few days when I turn everything on for the 1st time. hehe
 
I don't think the 1262 is too much flow for a 90g tank. Now if it's too much flow for your overflows, that's a different story. Try doing a head loss calculation to see what flow you're REALLY looking to get.

I have a Quiet One 4000 on my 90 and I don't think it's much flow at all. I'd probably go to a 5000 if I had to do it again. If you hunt around the forums, you'll see people going with low flow through their sumps. Some even using MJ1200s for returns. It all depends on your application. I personally prefer to have more flow from my single return rather than having more power heads in the display tank.

The Eheims are supposed to be really quiet and very reliable. If using a Mag as an internal pump, there shouldn't be any issues (other than more power or a little louder). But when using the Mags in an external environment, they are reportedly notorious for leaking.
 
That's my issue with the mag 9.5, when i shut the system down and power it back on, the water raises to fast for my overflow to start draining back down, I have to add a tee into my plumbing and reduce some of the flow by having it going back into my sump.. other then that I love it :D
 
I know you already have the pump, but if down the road, it breaks or you can sell it, try to get a smaller pump. It will save you on your electrical bill. If you have to reduce flow or send it back into the sump, you're just throwing money away. Or you can use the extra flow for other things like a Protein Skimmer, Chiller, UV, etc.
 
My plans are to run my Eheim 1262 with a wavysea wavemaker.

The 1262 is alittle more flow then i need. I would have prefered to get the 1260 but the price was right at the Nov meeting. I saved $50 on a new pump. So couldn't say no:)

Eheims are great. Very quiet and cool running. Low wattage! Can't beat german design;)

Unfortunately RC does not have the 1260 or 1262 on their calculator page. They should add them.
 
Yeah it was really cool catching up with such an old childhood friend like that, small world. Who would have thought that the two of us would take such interest in the same hobby.

I think Ryan@ Mechanicville Country Living Center is doing a really great job;) He is pushing education and coral propigation. Doing his part to help the hobbyist and promote the importance of saving the coral reefs. From what i saw on my lunch break the prices are very reasonable. He has many plans for growing this section of the business;) Adding more livestock tanks!.. There is even Outer orbit HQI & PC lighting fixtures there for sale.
 
Currently selling frags out of 2- 65 gal RR all-glass tanks with outer orbit lighting. There is a 3rd tank but i can't remember the size may have been another 65 gal RR i forget. Archer would know.

There is a good selection of saltwater dry goods. Including Caribsea live sand in various 20 lbs bags for a good price:)

Check him out sometime. They also have a full line of freshwater selling tanks & a 140 gal FW display.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8570896#post8570896 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lakeside518
Yeah it was really cool catching up with such an old childhood friend like that, small world. Who would have thought that the two of us would take such interest in the same hobby.

I think Ryan@ Mechanicville Country Living Center is doing a really great job;) He is pushing education and coral propigation. Doing his part to help the hobbyist and promote the importance of saving the coral reefs. From what i saw on my lunch break the prices are very reasonable. He has many plans for growing this section of the business;) Adding more livestock tanks!.. There is even Outer orbit HQI & PC lighting fixtures there for sale.
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I saw that light fixture, but it wasn't the one I wanted.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8570953#post8570953 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ken668
Kris, is this a new LFS in the area?
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The store Kris is talking about is a general hardware store in Mechanicville. They have a section in the back with small animals (rabbits, birds, lizards, etc), and they have a number of FW tanks set up there. Ryan, the owners son, is into reefs. He has a display tank with a bunch of frags, and a 2nd tank that is being changed to another frag display tank. (This is where I'm getting my LR from. He is breaking down the 2nd tank to make the second frag display tank) He plans on expanding the SW end. He typically has a bunch of items from Kent, and usually stocks LS and other related SW stuffs. Ryan is the one who told me about RC and started me on my SW education. I bought my tank and stand from him. He can basically get anything, and have it there for his Wednesday delivery.

For where I live, he is only like 5 minutes away. I think I've been there everyday this week while getting my tank set up. lol
 
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