scuba equipment?

xxseawolf

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my wife and i are interested in getting scuba certified this summer. we live in florida and have a boat and think its a waste not to do it. question is i want good equipment(doesnt have to be top of the line) at a reasonable rate. right now im just looking at getting mask, snorkel, fins to start out with. any brand name suggestions? thanks for any help.
 
hey sea wolf when ya get certified if ya ever need a dive buddy let me know i have been itching to try out my new aeris dive computer.

i currently have a Tusa regulator set up has worked great for me so far used and inexpensive, Dacor mask, i think tusa BC as well, but i do like the zeagles though, mares is a decent brand as well, but i would recommend getting decent stuff warrantied because this stuff is keeping you alive. well let some of the other more expert divers comment since i am still kinda new and havent tried many brands

good luck and lets go diving......

dennis
 
thanks for the reply. st. pete, hmmm. in the summer i live at shell key(i know you know where that is). but seriously i will take you up on the dive buddy when i get certified. thanks again.
 
It is hard to buy a bad regulator these days. SCUBA is a small comunity and if a mfg puts out crap, everyone will know it quick and they will be gone. there are regs that have bells and whistles, there are also regs with fancy decorations that make them look much nicer than they are. I personally dive a scubapro MK25/S600 on my single tank rig, and Apeks DS4/TX50 (and XTX50 for my backup) on my doubles rig. I am a certified tech for Scubapro, Atomics, Tusa, Oceanic, and I think a few others(?) Oceanic, Tusa, Sherwood, are reliable regs, theyre very simple in design, but they are low level performers in my opinion(edit Oceanic does have some nice regs. Ive seen regs advertised as balanced, ask if the 1st stage AND the 2nd stage are BOTH balanced, Ive seen 1st stages balanced with "classic down stream" seconds. This means the 2nd stage that you put in your mouth is of the oooold style and this is the half that really dictates the feel of the breathing). Scubapro is usually a bit more pricey but you get an unbeatable warranty, free parts for life for annual service, and guaranteed for life (unless you ran it over with a car or something stupid). I will admit that when I took the Atomics class, I opened up the reg and actually said "wow!" these are really great regs. I used to tell cusomers that they are really good regs but I didn't like them becuase they were too smooth and pretty. I still feel that if a product is that good looking, the quality must not be there. I was wrong about Atomics, the design, attention to detail, everything I think is great (except the swivel ball on hoses but thats just personal). Whatever you buy make sure that a local dive shop can service it for you. You dont want to drive 4 hours one way to get your reg to a shop that services that brand of reg.
 
i'm in the process of getting certified right now and what i splurged on was fins. i bought the nice splits and i freakin' love them. i also bought the mask the fit the best and had the nicest view. i bought a junky snorkel and gloves.

when i go to buy a nice bcd i think i'll spend the money to streamline. there's sooo many dangling things hanging off you it drives me nuts. it may not bother your or others though, but when you start your class you'll see what i mean. that's where i'd spend the money.
 
brand for mask is not anywhere close to as important as the fit. To see if a mask fits you put it up to your face, breath in slightly with your nose and then hold your breath. If it can stay on your face while you look at your feet, it is a good fit. Personally I love my panoramic mask, others dont. Mares X-Vision are great at being able to see everything on your BC, because they allow you to look down farther. Fins are also about feel. Before you buy, ask if you can try them out (along with the rest of your gear). I use Mares Quatrro and love them, I have also swam with the Mares Volos, Scubapro Twin Jets, and the Atomic Splits, They are all excelent fins. My BC is Seaquest PRO QD. I love having it weight integrated, to me it makes all of the difference in the world. If hou have any more questions, just ask. I worked as an assistant instructor for a little while, while I was working on my Advanced, Master, and Rescue. I would love to go out diving if you and Ferrit team up.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9612778#post9612778 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by motlot77
when i go to buy a nice bcd i think i'll spend the money to streamline. there's sooo many dangling things hanging off you it drives me nuts. it may not bother your or others though, but when you start your class you'll see what i mean. that's where i'd spend the money.
HOO RAA! I think it looks so...... white trash? to see this big ol' over stuffed vest with zippers everywhere and lights, compass, glow sticks, camera, dive consoles the size of a brick clipped everywhere (hopefully the brick is clipped and not dragging the sand) Im 6'4 with a 52" chest, when I was looking at getting certified I looked at a bunch of vests and when you inflate them they get really tight (without a wetsuit on) then I heard about a back plate and wings. Its a plate of steel with one loooong piece of 2" webbing, the webbing goes over both sholders like a backpack then around the waste with an almost airline seatbelt. The wing is basically a flat balloon that sandwiches between the backplate and your tank. As you inflate it swells behind you not around you. You have the bouyancy on your back so that helps you stay in a horizontal position witch is the most economical position to swim (imagine driving down the highway with you hand out the car window, have you hand flat and you hand just sits there, point your fingers up and you arm wants to raise, tilt you fingers down and .... you geet the point) these setups are modular, want to go somewhere ultra tropical, no wetsuit and need very little bouyancy, just swap out the wing, going to So Cal and wearing dry suit and a steel tank, put on a slightly larger wing, going tech diving with doubles, reels, canister light, deco bottle, jus swap out the wing. Years go by and the webbing is getting kinda frayed, oh no you have to replace ~$20 in webbing but keep everyting else.
sorry Im rambling... if you can get past the online BS seriously check out Global Underwater Exploreres. There is no attitude from this agency, all the bad press and 'tude is from the cyber divers that promote or denounce it. you dont have to take any classes from them, but take a look at their modified (slightly)
"hog" setup for gear configuration, about as streamlined as it gets.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9613684#post9613684 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by David P
then I heard about a back plate and wings. Its a plate of steel with one loooong piece of 2" webbing, the webbing goes over both sholders like a backpack then around the waste with an almost airline seatbelt.

I'm just recently certified for open water and advanced. I bought a vest BC that kept riding up on me and all tanks, console etc, had the areodynamics of a tool shed.

I bought out a cave diver for his gear w/ a back plate and wing that has a 5 point harness. I haven't dived with it yet, but I'm looking forward to it.

Some recommend buying new equipment and staying on top of the maintenance, but there are alot of people that jump in and jump out of the sport. They end up selling their equipment at a steep discount. I bought out somebody that had maintained their equiptment at a local dive shop and had the records. Now I know where to go too.

Mare, Oceanic, Aeris, etc. are all good brands. I'd also had good experiences with http://www.diversdirect.com/

If your looking for a mask I'd recommend Tusa.
 
Quite often the dive shop will sell their rental gear at really good prices every year. Just because of the liability issues you can be sure it's been well maintained and of good quality.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9620330#post9620330 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by billsreef
Quite often the dive shop will sell their rental gear at really good prices every year. Just because of the liability issues you can be sure it's been well maintained and of good quality.

this MAY be a good buy for you.... but then again consider what kind of gear most dive shops use as rentals. The local dive shop I work with has Scubapro MK2/r190 with a simple 2 gauge console and air 2 on a glide plus BC. These are bulletproof little regs! They may not be the best breathers, but great for backup, deco, argon... for a beginner these would be great regs. You just HAVE to have them surfaced. A couple months ago at the 1 year point I serviced all of our rental gear and couldn't believe how impacted with sand the majority of the gear is. Consider whos using it, brand new students that don't know how to care for gear or divers that dont care how to care for the gear because its "only a rental" 1st stages are pretty hard to screw up, but the second stage can get pretty scratched up being drug around. Then if you get a major brand like Scubapro, their warante is not transferable to a second buyer. You then loose your free parts for life. For me its no big thing as I have the parts kits, and the tools for servicing them, but if I did not, I would rather pay ~$250 and get a brand new Mk2/r190 (or r295))and get the warante...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9687341#post9687341 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coral diver
Its nice to know that you like our product and we got more coming out this fall are you a tech? :D

why do I sound like a techie? Yes I am, I help out at my local dive shop, but Im just a techie for my on pleasure. I worked aerospace for ~6 years testing, fixing, and sometimes assembly of different valves and regulators, so I felt at home with taking your class awhile ago. Now that Im servicing customers regs, the main difference between scuba and aerospace is that the scuba are MUCH dirtier! If I received an aerospace reg or valve back and opened it and saw half the crap that I see in most scuba regs, Id be running for my digital camera to take pictures of why the unit failed. I guess that just goes to show the engineering in scuba regs, they really take a beating and keep on ticking.

this isn't Jewls is it? If it is, get rid of your old custom wetsuit, get a drysuit and Converse make size 17 hightops that just fit our size 15/16 feet! And they fit perfect in the XX jets!
 
No i'm not Jules his the tech support Sup. I'm Jojo incharge of QA and local production LOL his use to the 80 deg. waters of Maui that why he just dive with short not use to wearing wet suit. And yes its more better to get our product from a certified store/dealer for all warranty to be honored we do not recognize on line store our product might be a little more expencive but like the old saying you get what you pay for.
 
So the backplate/wings devotees have invaded reefcentral...just one more step in our goal of total world domination. Sometime if you have a few hundred hours to spare, go to scubaboard.com, check out the the BC forum, and do a search on "BC vs BP/W".

It is true that the BP/W really has an impact on your diving, much more so than different regulators, all of which are PLENTY good enough for rec diving if they're serviced. The SP MK2 is a perfect first reg; cheap, indestructable, and easily serviced anywhere.

Even if you buy top end gear, diving is still cheaper than a large reef tank.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9730402#post9730402 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mattboy


Even if you buy top end gear, diving is still cheaper than a large reef tank.

hmm.... I dunno...
DUI TLS dry suit with P-valve and zip seals (ok I got Keyman but normal prices)$2500
double HP 120s $800
single HP 119 $400
40cuft deco $150
tank bands $125
manifold $200
back plate $100
wing $300
18w HID light $1400
good mask $100
DS4/XTX 50 regs 3) $1500 for doubles and deco
spg $100
computer/timer $400 (ball park)
Mk 25/S600 reg $600 for single tank dives
spg $100
fins w/springs $150
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main gear not including the little crap
$8,925
oops forgot undergarments for drysuit, backup wetsuit, smb, reel, training, dive trips, gas money when you drive to the dive site only to have mother nature tell you youre not diving that day, upgrades as you grow (one crappy reg set I bough, emergency signaling device that was made out of an orange trash bag are only poor choices I can remember buying).

eh, you could build one heck of a nice aqurium for an easy 10 grand!
 
Yeah, what I meant was, recreational diving. Tech diving and training is a whole different story.

And, BTW, it wouldn't surprise me at all if an average cost of building and running a 200 gal or bigger reef tank for a couple of years exceeded $10k. Livestock alone (including rock) could be half of that. Lights, pumps, reactors, electric bill.....
 
I would never want to add what I've spent on my aquariums over the years :D

I also know I spent less on my dive gear, heck I still dive with my original Sherwood regulator that is now over 20 years old :lol:
 
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