Nativeshark
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Sea Shepherd terrorists or responsible reef/fish keepers?
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gone fishin
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IMO, Egotistical, publicity seeking nut jobs
FinzAquatics
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big fan
Alexraptor
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Ecoterrorists
Badbrad8500
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Bringing attention to the problem, but not directly effective. That being said, I like where their hearts are at.
FinzAquatics
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I disagree.. Their approach may be a bit aggressive, but they have done quite a bit to help animals..
Eco-terrorists.
Their advocacy for banning the collection of all fish for the ornamental fish industry in Hawai'i totally ignores the research by biologists from multiple universities and the World Wildlife Fund that shows when areas are protected from collection the yellow tang population goes up to the DETRIMENT of other much less common species (meaning less common species become even rarer, Achilles Tangs being one example). http://files.hawaii.gov/dlnr/reports-to-the-legislature/2010/dar/DAR10-Hawaii-Fisheries-2010.pdf
They are championing an agenda that ignores the research for need of healthy populations of apex preditors ie sharks, to maintain pristine reef ecosystems and the research showing sunscreen is a serious threat to corals. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2291018/
Their advocacy for banning the collection of all fish for the ornamental fish industry in Hawai'i totally ignores the research by biologists from multiple universities and the World Wildlife Fund that shows when areas are protected from collection the yellow tang population goes up to the DETRIMENT of other much less common species (meaning less common species become even rarer, Achilles Tangs being one example). http://files.hawaii.gov/dlnr/reports-to-the-legislature/2010/dar/DAR10-Hawaii-Fisheries-2010.pdf
They are championing an agenda that ignores the research for need of healthy populations of apex preditors ie sharks, to maintain pristine reef ecosystems and the research showing sunscreen is a serious threat to corals. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2291018/
FinzAquatics
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Yes, if you were engaging in legal activities... The issue is that whaling in a sanctuary is not "legal". The Japanese whaling has been ruled ILLEGAL by the International Court of Justice. So in this campaign.. Their aggressive approach is to combat an illegal act.
The International Court of Justice said "While today's ruling did not outlaw the killing of whales for scientific research per se, it categorically stated that Japan's whaling programme in the Southern Ocean was not for scientific purposes, and the amount of whales being killed was not justifiable in the name of science. The court went on to say that Japan must stop issuing permits for this whaling."
Now in their other campaigns such as the Faroe Island Grindstop, you may have a point. This is a legal activity, but if you notice the approach from Sea Shepherd is not as aggressive in this campaign. They do not ram ships, they do not throw things, they hold signs and record the grinds, and steer whales away from the island.. They interfere they do not put anyone in harms way in these campaigns..
Great post!
Ah okay... And who gives them the right to do what they do? On what juristic base do they act? Sorry, I don't like what the japanese do either. But what SeaS. does is more than unacceptable. They are not the freaking eco police. They don't have the right to ram ships or creating a dangerous situations for the whalers.
Just because they act in international waters tjat doesn't mean they can do what they want.
I deeply hope that this organisation will be forbidden soon and people like Watson have to take responsibility for their actions in front of a court.
gone fishin
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In most parts of the ocean this would be considered an Act of Piracy, IMHO
I don't know why you guys keep talking about "legal" and "illegal." Don't these people basically think that whales are people and therefore it's a moral issue? If that's the case, then laws don't matter. Am I misunderstanding this?
Zoodiver
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The law is the law.
They are saying they are out to stop the illegal hunting. They are the ones who rag on the 'illegal' actions of taking the whales. They themselves are then going and doing something illegal. They are just as criminal as the actions of the whalers.
The proper way to go about stopping it would be through the legal channels provided.
I support whale conservation. I do not support the illegal actions of the eco-terrorists who are claiming to support the same thing I do.
They are saying they are out to stop the illegal hunting. They are the ones who rag on the 'illegal' actions of taking the whales. They themselves are then going and doing something illegal. They are just as criminal as the actions of the whalers.
The proper way to go about stopping it would be through the legal channels provided.
I support whale conservation. I do not support the illegal actions of the eco-terrorists who are claiming to support the same thing I do.
Wellcraft25
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