Second attempt with flasher wrasse, tailspot blenny, and kole tang in qt

[fifthtoe]

So I ordered a yellow fin flasher wrasse, tailspot blenny, and kole tang from divers den today. This will be my second qt attempt of these fish. My first attempt failed and the fish died. I treated with cupramine and prazipro and all the fish went from being active and eating, to breathing rapidly, hiding, and loss of appetite. They eventually died. These symptoms appeared after I started treatment, and was usually after my second prazipro treatment. I treated cupramine and prazipro simultaneously.

So I have a couple questions. Are any of these three fish sensitive to cupramine or prazipro? I read that kole tangs may be sensitive to copper. I'm not sure about blennies or flasher wrasses. Next question, should I proactively treat these fish or just monitor? I was thinking about tank transfer and prazipro, but I'm not sure about the prazipro. Thanks for everyone's help.

 

[zeebies]

I suggest letting the fish "rest" for a few days after you get them. Get them feeding and comfortable. Then do TT, then 2 rounds of PraziPro. It's very important with Prazipro to have lots of aeration in the tank.

This is my standard incoming fish routine.

 

[MrTuskfish]

I suggest letting the fish "rest" for a few days after you get them. Get them feeding and comfortable. Then do TT, then 2 rounds of PraziPro. It's very important with Prazipro to have lots of aeration in the tank.

This is my standard incoming fish routine.

Good advice.

I think tangs are one of the LEAST sensitive fish to copper. PraziPro is usually very easy on fish. I suspect a possible ammonia problem. How big is the QT and what are you doing for bio-filtration? Most ammonia test kits don't work with copper and ammonia neutralizers (Prime, et al) are deadly with copper. The ammonia alert badges do work.

I am a big fan of copper, but not everyone likes it and there are several tweaks with copper that are often learned by trial & error. I think Cupramine is the best copper, bet other forms have their fans too. I'd read this from the SeaChem site, the FAQ contain a lot of vital info. http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/Cupramine.html

TT & PP, followed by a few weeks of close observation may be the best route for new fish, ;but that's an ongoing debate.

 

[fifthtoe]

I didn't have all three fish in at one time but the QT was a 10 gallon. The fish were actually pretty small. The tang was only about 2 inches at most. I thought about ammonia issues too, but wasn't sure if that was the case since i was trying to do bi weekly water changes. As far as biological filtration, i had a bunch of floss in a hob filter and some stuffed in a bubble filter. They were both seeded. I was also adding Stability. I was not adding Prime or anything else since that doesn't go well with cupramine. As far as aeration, the hob is rated for a 30g and provides a lot of surface agitation along with a bubble filter.

Do you think tank transfer and prazipro simultaneously would be too much stress?

 

[zeebies]

I always do them separately. In fact, I do the full TT sequence then wait 5 days, then do Prazi. I wouldn't rush it. You have more control that way.

As MrTuskfish pointed out, a period of observation after TT and Prazi is always a good idea. For me, the total time from receiving a fish to doing the QT protocol to adding to the DT is 10 -12 weeks. My quick math say that's about 6 weeks for just the observation after TT and Prazi.

Do the time up front and you save a lot of headaches...

 

[fifthtoe]

Awesome... Thanks for the help!

 

[zeebies]

Welcome. Good luck :thumbsup:

 

[DasCamel]

Ammonia badges work great for TT and they work great with Prime and Amquel.