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Peter, so sorry to here it!
Is this in the new 240 gallon FO tank?
Remember the parasitic stages could of transferred on the net, container, wet hands, etc. You must of had an active life-cycle in your QT?
Hopefully it is a low-level infestation/ infection that can be quickly controlled/ eliminated
Is this in the new 240 gallon FO tank?
Remember the parasitic stages could of transferred on the net, container, wet hands, etc. You must of had an active life-cycle in your QT?
Hopefully it is a low-level infestation/ infection that can be quickly controlled/ eliminated
Recty
New member
Yep, that sucks. Been there, done that. I dont have a big tank anymore, but when I did and I quarantined and had what I believe to be an ich free display, I didnt put ANYTHING into my display that hadnt at least sat in QT for 6 weeks. Snails/crabs/shrimp all had their own smaller QT tank that I never treated but I just let the ich that might be in there sit and die with no hosts for 6-8 weeks, then I added the livestock to my tank.
Anyway, I feel for you. Hope it isnt too bad.
Squidmotron
New member
I did not know that snails can carry ich. Guess I've been more lucky than good.
Anything wet can carry ich. It's bad. It's still in the 110g. The 240 is going back to leemar next week to have the front panel replaced due to a defect in the glass.
I pulled most of the liverock and began copper. Looks like I caught it in time to avoid any losses. Guess I'm happy to have been reminded of this lesson prior to filling the 240.
I pulled most of the liverock and began copper. Looks like I caught it in time to avoid any losses. Guess I'm happy to have been reminded of this lesson prior to filling the 240.
geaux xman
New member
what fish started showing spots after adding the snails? what was the time frame between the addition of the snails and the spots?
so now you have your entire fish collection under copper again?
very sorry to hear that man. i can relate on the effort involved in trying to run a clean system then have everything go to ruins after one mistake.
so now you have your entire fish collection under copper again?
very sorry to hear that man. i can relate on the effort involved in trying to run a clean system then have everything go to ruins after one mistake.
geaux xman
New member
damn thats heartbreaking. they'll recover. mine responded very well to cupramine, but they werent infected(that i know of) with ich.
about how many days has it been since you started seeing spots? are they eating?
about how many days has it been since you started seeing spots? are they eating?
Cloudburst2000
Active member
I feel for you. I've never had ich, but I did introduce flatworms to my tank via macroalgae. I had a MAJOR infestation early on in the hobby. Now, I quarantine EVERYTHING. People think I'm nuts for quarantining macroalgae, inverts, etc but it's a much safer way of doing things. Since I got the flatworm infestation fairly early in the hobby and started quarantining all animals and macros early on, I'm fairly sure that's why I've never had ich. My brother-in-law got ich in his tank due to not quarantining at all. I had to help him fix the problem...a major PITA. I never want to go through it. People just don't seem to realize that anything that has been in an ich-infested tank can carry the ich cysts. I've heard of so many people complaining about getting ich out of the blue when they haven't added a new fish in a couple years. I always ask if they have added any inverts or macroalgae lately. I swear that I can feel them looking at the computer screen like I'm insane LOL I think many people are woefully under-educated in the types of ways you can introduce ich to your system. They think only fish can introduce it...wrong.
gunlocators
New member
I learned some thing new thanks for posting and sorry for your issue
It seems most of you are talking about QTing everything that goes into a fish only system but what about those with reef tanks?
I find it hard to beleive that people QT every coral or frag they add to their tank as that would require a second ank with high water quality and good lights, not to mention addtional stress on the coral for acclimating to 2 set of lights instead of 1. I dip all my corals and frags in CoralRX, does tha kill ich?
In all honesty I dont QT anything. I do my best to maintain a healthy system and good quality water. The only fish I have lost in 5 years to ich was a gold rim tang and I dont think QT would have helped.
I find it hard to beleive that people QT every coral or frag they add to their tank as that would require a second ank with high water quality and good lights, not to mention addtional stress on the coral for acclimating to 2 set of lights instead of 1. I dip all my corals and frags in CoralRX, does tha kill ich?
In all honesty I dont QT anything. I do my best to maintain a healthy system and good quality water. The only fish I have lost in 5 years to ich was a gold rim tang and I dont think QT would have helped.
reeferstace
I'm a little people
I introduced some wild collected macroalgae into my tank a few years ago. Within about three days I had a major tank crash. Lesson learned. 
Sorry Peter for your bad luck. I'm hoping that your guys respond well to treatment and that they all pull through.
Sorry Peter for your bad luck. I'm hoping that your guys respond well to treatment and that they all pull through.
Dr Colliebreath
New member
Did you rinse the snails off before putting them in the dt? A couple of times I have put inserts in the tank after a double rinse in fresh saltwater. I know it isn't a guarantee, but it may help.
It is so hard to quarantine everything but, as this shows, so necessary.
prop-frags
SPS Slave
Wow, sorry to hear this Peter. At least you'll have it cleared up for the new 240.
Well, that ich was really, really, REALLY bad. I've never seen fish so unhappy, yet alive! Looks like I'm over the hump. The cupramine is working. I had no idea there were so many bristle worms in my tank until they crawled out to die I did lose the robustus BF... of course, the rarest. Everyone else made it, including the pellet eating rainfordi BF, the hybrid pelewensis/punctatofasciatus BF, and the meredithi angels, all of which were in BAD shape early on.
I did lose the robustus BF... of course, the rarest. Everyone else made it, including the pellet eating rainfordi BF, the hybrid pelewensis/punctatofasciatus BF, and the meredithi angels, all of which were in BAD shape early on.
reeferstace
I'm a little people
Here's hoping for continued improvement for your guys. Sorry about losing the robustus.
Cloudburst2000
Active member
I do quarantine all of my corals, even frags. I have plenty of old light systems laying around to use on tanks. I always keep an alternate light available in case the one on my main tank bites the dust. I now have all LED but I still have my old MH lights that can be used on a QT or in the case of an emergency. And, IMHO, it's not that hard to keep pristine water conditions when you have only corals in a tank. There will be no fish waste to worry about so it's easy to keep water conditions good. I have not had to use this invert QT set-up yet as I don't keep SPS or clams. I will be keeping them sometime in the near future so the QT with the MH will be for them. For my sofites/LPS frags and small coral colonies as well as other inverts, I havw what is basically a continuously running 6g nano QT. It works fine. Never had an issue with water chemistry. I might have an easier time of it because all the tanks I keep are nanos so I don't need large QT set-ups. I also buy almost all of my corals as either frags or small colonies so they fit in there fine.
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