Seeking advice on GBTA

ratherbediving

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I bought a Green Bubble Tip anemone three weeks ago. When I went to the LFS, I didn't go thinking I was going to pick up an anemone, but I had read the anemone FAQ and felt like I was ready for one. My tank has been up for year, and the readings were pretty good. The only reading that was a bit low was alk-- at 7 dkH this was a little lower than what I read you should keep alk at, but my ph seemed pretty steady (using Milwaukee pH meter) and I figured this would be okay. I drip kalk daily and have been adding B-ionic a couple times a week as well.

First of all, I had trouble acclimating him. I used an airline that I had tied in a knot to drip water into a bucket previously. I found that it worked well, but for some reason this time I wanted to use a pastic valve to more closely control the drip rate; I figured I'd start out slow, then increase the rate of the drips.

Unfortunately, the airline fell off the valve :( and poured water straight into the bucket for a couple minutes, probably equalling the volume of water that was in the acclimation bags from the LFS. Good way to shock the corals. I waited for another 15 minutes without adding water, then continued to drip (making sure the line was more secured to the valve). After about 2 hours total, I tried to move the anemone to the main tank. It had secured its foot to the bottom of the bucket. I don't have long fingernails and really didn't feel like I could easily get underneath the anemone very well. I eventually got it out of the bucket, but I am pretty sure I stressed it out really badly in the process.
Once I got it in the tank, it stayed where I wanted it to-- then later that night it moved underneath the rock I put it on. The next day it popped up again, this time on the other side of the rock, where I have a sizeable frogspawn. I knew about the risks of the anemone stinging other corals, so I was a bit worried but figured I could take the anemone back if it became too much of a problem.

The anemone looked pretty much like it did at the LFS at this point:
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The next day, it moved back to the other side of the rock. However, it had lost its bubble tips, and had an inflated base and much longer tentacles.

This is a picture of how it looks now, but it has pretty much looked this way since...

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This is almost where I wanted it to go; this is further to the back of the tank, right under my (partial) manifold, so some of the light is blocked. I thought it would appreciate more light.... but it would move if it felt it wasn't getting enough, right?

Sorry for all the long background/ post-- I have a few concerns. The first is I want to make sure the picture above doesn't indicate that the anemone is having problems.... one thing I have read recently is that anemones can be affected by the secondary metabolites of certain corals. I don't have any leathers (sarcophyton?), but I do have the following corals:

Frogspawn
Hammer coral
Bubble coral
Zoanthids
Xenia
Green star polyps
Button polyps
Galaxea
Mushrooms
Chilli Coral
Plate coral
Open brain

I did read that the zoanthids can be a problem... is this something I need to be concerned about?

Also-- it has deflated twice that I have seen, both times were pretty alarming, even though it recovered pretty quickly. I know from reading the FAQ that they do this do equalize internal water chemistry and flush out wastes, and it sounds like once a week or so isn't too bad, as long as it recovers quickly. Still, I'd like to post what this looked like. It recovered to its full size by the next day, and was almost back to normal a few hours after it deflated.

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About an hour later:

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Finally-- last question/ concern. I have three rock boring (echinometra) urchins in my tank. They hitchhiked on my live rock, and have grown pretty big. One was feeding on coraline immediately behind the anemone. It was poking at the anemone in the process. I haven't seen any damage, but is this something I need to be concerned about?

Thanks for any help/ advice. I have been reading all I can, and I know these can be demanding animals. I have been feeding mysis, which it accepts readily, about every three to four days.
 
hi the single most inportant thing iv found is stability do you use a top-up devise salanity must be kept exact to have any chance with btas
 
Mowt eveything you stated sounds pretty much normal to me. Concerning movement, they will go where they like it best; light, flow, etc.. I have never had much luck with keeping them where I wanted them to be.

None of your existing corals should be detrimental to your BTA so long as there is no sustained contact.

As far as deflating, I've had them do this several times a week. Don't know for sure if stress has anything to do with this or not. I suspect not, though. I would watch your urchins, I think they should get along, but to be safe, I would keep an eye on them.

Hope all goes well with your new BTA. Oh, the extension of its tenticles from bulb to long is a matter of water flow. No worry about health. Less flow= more bubbles. More flow=less bulbs, in my experience.

Hop some of this babble helps.
 
Bolton Reefer-- Welcome to Reef Central! I top off daily with kalkwasser, and I don't think my salinity varies too much.

Zoomfish-- thanks for the encouraging post. Mine hasn't moved for a couple weeks now, so hopefully it will stay put. I will keep an eye on the urchins, I am thinking that I might try and trade one into the LFS or let one work in the sump for awhile... however I'd like to keep them if I can.
 
One more question-- how much should you feed a BTA? I have been feeding mysis, some cyclopeeze or marine cuisine about every three days. I usually don't feed too much. After catching the peices of food in its tentacles, it looks the way it normally does about 15 minutes later. Yesterday I tried feeding more mysis than I normally do, because I had a bit extra already thawed after feeding my tank. This time it deflated a bit (became a bit darker green)-- nothing like the extreme deflated pictures like above-- but not like it usually did. It was back to normal a couple hours later.

So did I feed the right amount, or did I feed too much?
 
Try feeding it some silverside. Infact thats all my BTA would eat prior to its date with the power-head.

My LTA on the other hand likes Shrimp and Silverside.

Feeding times- There have been some people that feed small pieces every other day and there are some people that feed them a bigger porton once a week. If you feed them to much they will "Throw-up" there food and it will probly see the chunk floating around the tank unless another fish got to it.
 
Mine seems to accept just about anything, which is nice. I don't want to have to buy silversides when the only things that might eat them would be the anemone and my open brain (Trachyphyllia). When you feed them-- do they look any different afterwards? Assuming you don't feed too much?

I am thinking that is probably what I did... but maybe before, when the anemone doesn't look any different, maybe I was not feeding enough....

I have read a lot about anemones online-- seems like some folks here recommend feeding a bit more (or a lot more) that I have been feediing mine. I can't imagine feeding my anemone an entire cube of frozen food as some do... not even close. Some say don't feed them too much (maybe once a week) unless you want them to split or get larger (I would rather not in favor of keeping the bioload down). Robert Fenner in his book "The Conscientious Marine Aquarist" that you should underfeed an anemone, and seems to follow up with that advice online. But its hard to know what that actually means in practical terms...
 
Your anemone seems just fine, exhibiting normal behaviors throughout. The deflating is also quite normal. No one really knows why the tips tend to "bubble" or deflate--it says nothing about its health, so I wouldn't worry about it. I recommend heavy feeding at least 3 times a week, but that is just me. I have not noticed adverse effects to using a good feeding schedule (which only resulted in a bigger, happier sea anemone). so long as no food is wasted or drifts away, I don't think you should have any water quality issues.
 
I think your suffering from new anemone syndrome. If you notice it bleaching you have a problem other than that things should be fine as long as it inflates. i have days where my anemone takes it time inflating. No worries my friend all sounds well.
 
Thanks for asking... actually nothing really new to report. It looks about the same, maybe a bit more expanded. I can't imagine it actually grew in the time I had it, but it definitely appears larger. I am not sure how often it deflates, because I think it may be deflating, then getting back to normal by the time I get home from work. I don't have any reason to believe it is doing it too frequently, however.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6596048#post6596048 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by J8851
I think your suffering from new anemone syndrome. If you notice it bleaching you have a problem other than that things should be fine as long as it inflates. i have days where my anemone takes it time inflating. No worries my friend all sounds well.

I wonder... is new anemone syndrome something that affects the anemone or the reefkeeper :) Seems like anemones are a lot more 'dramatic' (stressful) than corals are :)

Thanks for the reassurance
 
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