Setup questions for a 110g

SAZ03

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Hi all. I have been reading, reading, and reading during cycling and am on information overload for sure. This is my second go-round with reef tanks and the first time was fun but a learingin experience and I rushed it leading to many mistakes and bad husbandry. This time I want to do it right and be successful so I have been reading a lot before jumping in. I want to do things in an educated way and be proactive instead of reactive. But I am not exactly finding all the answers I need. I hope some experienced RC members can help me with my questions:

  1. I am definetly going to use an old 25g cube that I have for a QT. But I am not sure what medications to use regardless of seeing any obvious disease; should I use Praziquantel ONLY?
  2. I am almost ready for my CUC. Should I use reefcleaners.org? It seems like a good idea but wow does that seem like a large CUC. Is it the most common 'recommended' method?
  3. For dosing I have chosen to use limewater in the RO/DI top off water. But I am left to wonder about the absence of salt mix in the top-off (I know it is to prevent precipitation). How do I maintain salinity if my top off is just RO/DI and limewater? Do I shoot for higher salinity in the water change to account for the drop in salinity from the top-off?
 
Hi all. I have been reading, reading, and reading during cycling and am on information overload for sure. This is my second go-round with reef tanks and the first time was fun but a learingin experience and I rushed it leading to many mistakes and bad husbandry. This time I want to do it right and be successful so I have been reading a lot before jumping in. I want to do things in an educated way and be proactive instead of reactive. But I am not exactly finding all the answers I need. I hope some experienced RC members can help me with my questions:

  1. I am definetly going to use an old 25g cube that I have for a QT. But I am not sure what medications to use regardless of seeing any obvious disease; should I use Praziquantel ONLY?
  2. I am almost ready for my CUC. Should I use reefcleaners.org? It seems like a good idea but wow does that seem like a large CUC. Is it the most common 'recommended' method?
  3. For dosing I have chosen to use limewater in the RO/DI top off water. But I am left to wonder about the absence of salt mix in the top-off (I know it is to prevent precipitation). How do I maintain salinity if my top off is just RO/DI and limewater? Do I shoot for higher salinity in the water change to account for the drop in salinity from the top-off?

The four major objectives of qt are:

1. Promote adaptation such as best nutrition to replenish deficiency of collection and transport

2. Eradicate protozoan organisms that can cause great harm

3. Help to slowly acquire immunity against new bacterial pathogens

4 treat against fluke and internal parasites
 
1. I do not treat fish in QT unless there is a need to do so (the fish show signs of disease). Some treat regardless, but most medications are poisons, just less harmful to the fish than the disease they treat. I do however dip my fish prior to placing them in the QT. I use Blue Life Safety Stop.
2. reefcleaners.org sends a fairly large clean-up crew, larger than what most new tanks need or can support, so either order a CUC at half the tank size or you will need to feed the CUC which defeats the purpose of the CUC!
3. When water evaporates it leaves the salt behind. You always top off with fresh water, not saltwater or your salinity will slowly rise.
 
1. I do not treat fish in QT unless there is a need to do so (the fish show signs of disease). Some treat regardless, but most medications are poisons, just less harmful to the fish than the disease they treat. I do however dip my fish prior to placing them in the QT. I use Blue Life Safety Stop.
2. reefcleaners.org sends a fairly large clean-up crew, larger than what most new tanks need or can support, so either order a CUC at half the tank size or you will need to feed the CUC which defeats the purpose of the CUC!
3. When water evaporates it leaves the salt behind. You always top off with fresh water, not saltwater or your salinity will slowly rise.

Ah, very good info indeed. I had thought about getting a much smaller CUC so this makes sense and I had no idea about the salinity and evaporation so that is very good info for me and my understanding.
 
Many drugs are somewhat poisonous.

But when the risk of non-treatment is far greater, careful use of drugs are necessary and wise.

Ich is a calamity

Many my fish stopped eating SOS posts are the result of not treating against internal parasites in time preventively esp via food while the fish is still eating well.
 
Never treat a well fish is my own opinion. Meds have consequences, some worse than others. But do quarantine--4 weeks.
Buy your cleanup crew in stages: you can't immediately feed a big one. Let it work, buy more, etc. Then fish.
Don't dose kalk unless you have stony coral or a clam. Stick to simple water changes, but test alk, cal, mg. and keep a log of the readings with dates and notes of changes made to your system.
 
Never treat a well fish is my own opinion. Meds have consequences, some worse than others. But do quarantine--4 weeks.
Buy your cleanup crew in stages: you can't immediately feed a big one. Let it work, buy more, etc. Then fish.
Don't dose kalk unless you have stony coral or a clam. Stick to simple water changes, but test alk, cal, mg. and keep a log of the readings with dates and notes of changes made to your system.

Hi, thanks for responding but this brings up more questions. I thought it was essential do dose for calcium and alkalinity. Are you saying not to dose anything at all unless I have stony corals or clams?

Also, what size CUC should I start with in your opinion? maybe a 25g CUC from reef cleaners?
 
Hi, thanks for responding but this brings up more questions. I thought it was essential do dose for calcium and alkalinity. Are you saying not to dose anything at all unless I have stony corals or clams?

Also, what size CUC should I start with in your opinion? maybe a 25g CUC from reef cleaners?
You need to test Ca, Alk and Mg in order to know if you need to dose at all. Unless you have clams or SPS coral you most probably to certainly don't have to dose. Anyway, the point is you dont dose before you test!
 
For clean up crews, I personally pop my clean up crews into my Refugium and let them get on with it, after 3 months or so, I started to remove the CUC from the sump into the main tank, this now meant that I was cultivating a clean up crew in the safety of my refugium and moving them as and when needed into the DT. Yes I did add some straight away to the DT, my only problem is that the snails got so big, the hermits are now Goliath and other than pull them out of the tank, I had to let them outgrow their shells and stop putting snails in for a while.
 
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