"sewing" leather onto rocks

anchor10

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I bought a toadstool leather last weekend. It was nicely attached to a rock. After a week in my tank the flow was a bit much and now it's detached.

The Leather is about 8" high with a stem or trunk about 2" in diameter. Wetwebmedia.com suggests sewing it onto a rock with fishing line. Anybody ever tried that?
 
Never done that one. I have never had a problem with leather sticking to a rock. When I would cut leathers like colt, I would place a toothpick through the stem and hold it down with rubber band to a rock. After a week or so it would stick to the rock and I could remove the toothpick.
 
I have used super glue on a few small spots on the base, not the whole thing, just to hold it in place for a few days. Then it will base out and be able to hold itself.
 
stitching with plastic thread is one of the fastest, safest and surest ways of securing coral. as a rule, if a coral can be safely and successfully cut, then it can be stitched as well. your leather will attache back to the rock and you can leave the plastic thead or cut it and pull it out. the leather will heal over and youll never be able to tell, i would move it to less flow if you can till it heals.
just don't tie it too tight, the plastic thread could rip though the leather. ive also used a tooth pick and rubberband, but that was for smaller leather frags.
 
Thanks for the quick response... I think this one is too big and "mushy" for super glue. Toothpick might work -- sounds less daunting than sewing -- but WWmedia really felt strongly about it. The bottom of the stem is a bit tattered, should I cut it off? And if so what's the chance it will release a bunch of toxin into the system?
 
some coral produce little or no mucus and other produce tons under stress. this can continue for a few hours or days. you can control this with appropriate water flow. short bursts of current will help remove mucus while the coral is under stress. but with leathers it shouldn't be that bad.
 
your protein skimmer will help remove the mucus. use seachem Reef Iodide, it will help your leather heal faster and grow better too. yellow leathers need idoide to live and keep it's color
 
Thanks again for the info... I have a bottle of Kent Tech 1 Iodine supplement... It's not Seachem -- but is Iodine the same as IoDIDE?
 
i don't think Iodide is the same as Iodine
other wise they would be called the same.
Iodine in large amouts can hurt or even kill invertebrates
double check with some of the others i.e. matt or ade
before you dose with the iodine
 
If you read the ingredients label on the Kent Iodine it actually is iodide. Hope that helps
 
Maybe I should do more research before asking questions on the forum! Thanks. BTW -- does it work for your leathers?
 
that's right i forgot
i tried to get iodide from kent and all i could find was iodine, thats why i started going with seachem
 
it's assumed that iodine/iodide/whatever (i'm no chemist and simply trust if it's a reef supplement it must be the right form), helps 'soft fleshy' corals like leathers, zoos and lps. it's also said to help detoxify excess oxygen that is produced within the zooxanthellae within coral when in really bright light. they say it is skimmed out by big skimmers.

i don't think anyone has really proved it, and some experts say there's plenty of iodine in the salt mix and food so that there's no reason to supplement it. however, i do notice my tank looks better when i do dose it, so i like it. too much and i get brown dust algae (which most people call diatoms).

i use the kent stuff (not the newer tech formula but the other 'red label' one). apparently it is time released. i generally like seachem stuff better than kent, and warner best of all. i use the kent just because i have a big jug that i've had forever. i tried lugol's a while back but didn't notice anything either way out of it. it's a much more potent 'raw' form that you add just a few drops of at a time.



if the leather is rotting from the base, i don't think it's flow. leathers can really take a beating, worst i'd expect from too much flow is it'd stay shriveled up. it sounds like it just didn't take to your tank. i'd cut any rot off with a razor blade and hope it settles down. keep up with carbon and skimming.
 
Thanks.

I'm trying the toothpaste trick and it seems like it's nice and snug. Also did a 6 gallon water change and dosed a bit of "iodide" (Kent) Moved the coral to a low flow area, and we'll see!
 
UPDATE: I have one unhappy coral tonight. Did the toothpick thing this morning. Tonight with the lights on almost no response from the coral. It's wilting like flowers in the August sun. If it's going to recover -- it has a long way to go!
 
Usally I don't look great after a tooth pick has been placed through my flesh as well. ;-)
I think that Matt has hit the nail on the head, you might have got a leather that just didsn't take to your tank.
 
shriveled is probably fine as long as it isn't turning to mush. it's pretty normal for them to be angry and reclusive in a new tank for a while, then they shed and look better than ever.

are we going to see this tank on the crawl? i'd like to run the whole battery of tests on it, including verifying that your hydrometer/refractometer is correct. the last time i heard of a quick death on a new leather, it was due to bad salinity from an off refractometer.
 
UGH... OK -- This morning it has broken off again, and the stem is pretty much, "mush." It was sturdy yesterday and the toothpick had a hard time penetrating. Perhaps I handled it too much...

I'm now afraid it's going to poison the tank, so am planning to put it in the 29 in the basement which only has an engineer goby in it... I haven't looked at the crawl thread. When is it? I have not tested salinity in a while and just use the basic hydrometer... But all other corals in the tank are doing well.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12005884#post12005884 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by anchor10
UGH... OK -- This morning it has broken off again, and the stem is pretty much, "mush." It was sturdy yesterday and the toothpick had a hard time penetrating. Perhaps I handled it too much...


I'm sorry but I am having hard time responding to that quote.
 
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