Sexual Dimorphism: Ocellaris Clowns

Nebulosa

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Is it possible for a male clownfish to be larger than a female one in a pair?

I have kept clownfish for almost 20 years. The pair that I owned previously lived for more than 16 years, and exhibited extreme sexual dimorphism, where the female was more than twice the mass and bulk of the male in the pair.

The pictured black clown lived alone in a small tank for at least 3 months. It is my understanding that if a clown is alone, it will develop into a female. I felt some pity for the lonely black clown, so I mail-ordered another clown, with the instructions that a small one be sent. I was surprised to find that the new clown (the orange one in the picture) was larger than the black one!!

From my research, most aquarists state that placing 2 female clowns together is tantamount to killing one of them. I don't know if this fact is from their own observations, or from information passed from one aquarist to another.

Using caution and a plan for separation, I released the orange clown into the tank. I waited for the fireworks, and waited some more...6 months later, they're still together. There's a bit of posturing between the two, but they never swim more than 3 inches away from each other.

Additional Information:
A. They lived in a 12 gallon tank for 6 months.
B. They were moved to a 60 gallon tank yesterday, and are the only inhabitants.
C. The are captive-bred.
D. No anemones were provided as hosts.

Any observations, hypotheses, and/or theories are welcome.

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If they live alone and if they are old and big enough then they becoem a female. You will get a pair, I am not 100% sure which one will be the female, but likely the bigger one of the two. i think your clowns are not old enough to become sexually mature yet.
 
Thanks for the response, Minh. Both are fairly large, and have 'adult' proportions, so I'm hoping that they're just big and immature.
 
If they live alone and if they are old and big enough then they become a female.

This information may not be entirely true.

I'm not sure about the rules here of quoting another persons work, so mods please remove this post if there is a problem.

In an article in the August issue of Aquarium Fish International on the bottom of page 32, Scott W. Michael answers with:

"Studies have shown that males may not change into females if conspecifics are not present. Therefore, if you have an individual that has been isolated from members of its own kind for some time, it does not mean that it has developed into a female. It may take the addition of a conspecific for this to occur. One cannot always be sure of what sex an isolated anemonefish is if it is isolated. It may develop functional gonads and become male, or it may remain sexless (the gamete-producing organs may not mature)."

This really explains a lot and makes sense when you think about it. The article is a good read if you have the magazine and he also lists 3 references at the end of the article.
 
Thanks, Andy. I'll hunt down that article.

It's quite ironic that we still don't have definite answers about fish that are so ubiquitous in the reef industry, and that have been captive bred for so long.
 
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