should I go for a goniopora?

[Member No. 1]

And please member no. 1 where did you get that "I can't keep easy corals alive" seriously I hate it when people flame me because I'm too young, my tank is too small, my tank crash because bla bla bla. Please stop jumping into conclusions without even knowing what happened

I know my tank is small, that's why I'm limited to LPs and softies since SP's will die in my slightly dirty tank

I do 50% water changes

I did a lot of research and homework

I only had 2 casualties of corals due to my shrimp and some sweepers.

My corals were already eating and a portion of my wall hammer started growing back since it was dying at the store.

Its just annoying. When I listed help when my tank crashed I was relieved to the many people who comforted me and said that mistakes and unexpected accidents can happen in this hobby. But some jumped into conclusions and even said that the hobby isn't meant for me. Its just annoying that they didn't know the full story, and started jumping into conclusions that were wrong and some even flamed/bash me even though I was in tears that time.

I never flamed you. If you read what I wrote, I clearly said don't take this the wrong way and was only offering advise.
But not to worry, I will steer clear of all you future threads.
Happy reefing.

 

[Member No. 1]

You gotta love how everyone on here LOVES to tell people what not to do or that they're screwing up.
They always seem to forget that they learned whatever it is that they do know, by making mistakes and progressing from there. [emoji849]

And we give advise based on our mistakes so others don't repeat our errors.

 

[CHSUB]

You gotta love how everyone on here LOVES to tell people what not to do or that they're screwing up.
They always seem to forget that they learned whatever it is that they do know, by making mistakes and progressing from there. [emoji849]

no, i don't "love" telling people they screwed up, but one would think with the available info, skipping gonis would make sense. i stopped trying in about 2002 before that i was unaware of their failure rate. i guess people are having some success with the ORA ones? i read if you feed it like a NPS coral they sometimes live, but that is a lot of work! and yes, i lost many, but i would hope people could gain from my loss?

 

[HammerLover]

I never flamed you. If you read what I wrote, I clearly said don't take this the wrong way and was only offering advise.
But not to worry, I will steer clear of all you future threads.
Happy reefing.

I'm not saying you flamed me. I'm just so tired of people saying I'm such a failure in reef tanks. Until niw I'm still sad and sometimes I cry when I see the coral skeletons that I dried in our garden. I'm just so tired of people jumping into wrong conclusions.

If you looked at this thread people were flaming and saying the hobby isn't meant for me. I'm still affected by this since all my hard work and allowance was just all down the drain now.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2556413&page=2

I'm sorry if I got mad, I'm still pretty much upset about what happened

 

[GregJames]

I guess it's ok to make bets on how soon someone's coral will die then, right..?

Did you ever consider that just maybe that person bought it because someone sold them on a new shipment that had just arrived at the LFS.

When I buy coral, I read the factual profile of it while I'm in the store. I'm not as gifted and blessed as you to just know what each coral is and how difficult it is to care for. [emoji52]

 

[CHSUB]

I guess it's ok to make bets on how soon someone's coral will die then, right..?

Did you ever consider that just maybe that person bought it because someone sold them on a new shipment that had just arrived at the LFS.

When I buy coral, I read the factual profile of it while I'm in the store. I'm not as gifted and blessed as you to just know what each coral is and how difficult it is to care for. [emoji52]

GL and hope it works out....:wave:

 

[albano]

I guess it's ok to make bets on how soon someone's coral will die then, right..?

Did you ever consider that just maybe that person bought it because someone sold them on a new shipment that had just arrived at the LFS.

When I buy coral, I read the factual profile of it while I'm in the store. I'm not as gifted and blessed as you to just know what each coral is and how difficult it is to care for. [emoji52]

Learning not to make 'impulse' buys is very important in this hobby...not only might that item not survive, but some things could cause a bigger problem with the tank.
IMO/E, having something survive a few weeks or even a month or 2, is not enough to consider success (yet) with any marine livestock...

 

[Dkuhlmann]

You gotta love how everyone on here LOVES to tell people what not to do or that they're screwing up.
They always seem to forget that they learned whatever it is that they do know, by making mistakes and progressing from there. [emoji849]

We're only trying to help you keep from making the same mistakes that we have. I'm one of the people that falls into that group.

 

[HammerLover]

Guess I won't continue buying the Goni. Its juat gonna be a waste and it needs full dedication that I cant provide. I've seen some cyarinas the last time I went in the LFS and I prefer buying those fancy doughnuts instead

Again I'm sorry if I kinda ranted awhile ago, I'm still pretty much upset at my tank crash, and now its slowly rebuilding and thriving. Some specks of green coralline are starting to show again too.

 

[GregJames]

For the haters, haha. Another month goes buy and it's still growing

 

[DLreef]

Oops double post

 

[DLreef]

For the haters, haha. Another month goes buy and it's still growing

Nice coral, but what's up with the top glass on your tank Looks like someone slanted it with a jig-saw :uhoh2::uhoh2:

 

[CHSUB]

For the haters, haha. Another month goes buy and it's still growing

no haters here, sporty....read this carefully!!

quote from Eric Borneman's book Corals; "For currently unknown reasons, Goniopora have a long history of failing to survive in the aquarium, often going into a slow demise for no apparent reason. The novice aquarist often buys a Goniopora coral and then boasts of its "long-term" survival after 6 months. However, Goniopora frequently thrive for up to a year or more before declining."

sound familiar????:blown:

 

[shred5]

Well I have kept some goniopora for years.
No goniopora is for a beginner.
Most are hard and a few are still impossible.
With most Goniopora they live about a year and a half to about two years and just die for no reason and allot of times show growth during this period.. This is exactly what happens to goniopora stokesis.
Some require mass feedings that are hard to do in a reef and actually better in a nps tanks.
Most Reds are easier along with most encrusting varieties. Greens seem to be much harder. Success in goniopra is measured in years and not months.

Goniopora stutchburyi is small polyp goniopora and is encrusting and very beautiful goni that is rather easy. It almost looks like porities and sometime mistaken for it. This next picture is it:

This is my blue goinopora, it almost like like green starpolyps but blue. Grows way fast.

This is a red ora goniopora which really are not to hard. It does better with food.
I forget how old this one is but it is pretty old.

In that last picture is a green variety I have tried twice now and it is on its way out. My last try for it. Some goniopora are just impossible.

I have also about a dozen frags. Most are growing and some rather fast.

 

[ps1434]

Five year old ORA goniopora. Fragged it three times never feed it. ORA says the never feed it and have never tried. I have never seen a feeding reaction from a lot of different types of foods. People keep repeating what they have heard with no experience. This is an old picture and the big one is a lot bigger.

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[HammerLover]

Ora ones may be the few exception but MOST gonis will benefit and react to feeding.

I've read several websites and one had kept and fragged gonis and his secret is regular feeding with oysterfeast and rotifiers. However some gonis like certain type of food and some likes certain amount of feeding.

 

[cougareyes]

I don't do high maintenance corals and have had a ORA red goni for well over a year doing well, I do dust in with the same coral food I feed the rest. BUT it does not like being messed with, closed up for a while, found out a emerald crab was messing with it. Yanked him out now all is fine again. So a clown hosting will not be tolerated.

 

[ps1434]

I had a clown hosting in mine for over a year and it did not bother it one bit.

 

[Vteclover]

Just try it.
Gonio is a mystery.
I never fed it.
The only thing what they possible like from research is iron.
I always had the iron supplement in my FM balling light
My yellow whas the first and is 2 years now.
Then u bought the red one and now 7 months later almost doubled in size.

Have a small frag red with yellow center is doing ok but seems to be more difficult and slow grower
Just Bought a aussie rainbow gonio and after a week it whas in mutch better shape then in the lfs.

 

[Moort82]

I think the problem with goni's and the opinion they are difficult is because people and literature are specifically talking about stokesi. It was the most commonly kept species when much of this info was described but with more of the other species coming through this info is very outdated. I keep several goni's, don't feed and do not specialist care, they are thriving and have done for 5-6 years.
You could also look for pieces written by Justin Credible who has a intimate knowledge of the species and I believe had a major part in creating goni power.