Show fish(s) for a 48"x12"x12" 33g

palmer373

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It has been a while since i last posted so I might as well ask for your opinions for my new tank. I am setting up a 33g 48"x12"x12" REEF that will be plumbed into a 75g FOWLR. I have everything figured out for the plumbing issues, lighting, and other stuff so i would rather not talk about that. i plan on having softies, zoas, some SPS, and some LPS. I would like to have 1 very nice show fish or maybe a pair of very nice show fish so this tank would have very few inhabitants besides the corals. I know tangs are out of the picture, and probably the same with triggers. I was thinking of maybe like seahorses or pipefish becuase those arent seen alot around here. i would love for you fellow reefers to suggest any ideas for fish to add. I plan on having a CUC, some shrimp (maybe), and maybe a madarine becuase I love those fish, Ive read up on them so i know what im getting into, and i have plenty of copepods and amphipods in the 75 and refuge. also as a last note, i still need to order the lighitng and equipment so i still have a good month or 3.

thanks for your help!
 
If you can go without the shrimp and mandarin, a pair of dwarf lions could be cool.

Alternatively you could try something like a dwarf angel, but you could be chancing it with the reef. Pistol shrimp goby combo maybe? Something simple like a pair of clowns could also be nice.
 
thanks for the opinions penny. I agree a dwarf lionfish would be cool but i plan on having many corals and that might affect the lionfish plus im gonna be having my hands in there for who knows what and i would rather not have to go to the hospital :) ill keep that option open though! gotta talk to the folks!. I was thinking of a dwarf angel but i was also worried about the chance. im putting on in the 75 so i would rather not put one in the 33. I forgot to mention. im having a SSB just for looks so like an inch maybe so most gobys/shrimp will be out of the option. ive liked the looks of a gold striped maroon clownfish and i saw one at the LFS recently, maybe a pair of those?
 
I was just thinking, what about having the 33 like a large nano? i mean instead of just 1 or 2 bigish fish, why not like 10 or so nano fish? i.e. fish that are less than 3-4"? any ideas on fish like that?
 
considering im only 14 years old, living in my parents house, and jobless, im lucky to have enough money to by a chromis viridis let alone a candy bassalet. i was considering one but the price is too much. i could buy a 180 reef-ready for that much!
 
If you are going to have high flow for your SPS, seahorses would not be a great idea. They are also very vulnerable to stinging corals. Maybe not the best choice for this tank.

There are some small, reef safe hogfish that are very nice looking and colorful, and won't completely break the bank. For example:

Yellow candy hogfish
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+35+1157&pcatid=1157

You could have a mystery wrasse (probably either/or with the hogfish, not both) if you don't have shrimp, they are a bit pricier, but not crazy.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+1378+355&pcatid=355

Swiss guard basslet is a nice fish...
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+2124+1436&pcatid=1436

It's probably not your centerpiece fish, but orchid dottybacks are really nice fish, so are royal gramma. One of these would be a great addition.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+21+53&pcatid=53
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+38+1116&pcatid=1116

If you want a small group, bangai cardinals are very nice and not super big or pricey.

Good luck! Sounds like it will be a very nice set-up.
 
considering im only 14 years old, living in my parents house, and jobless, im lucky to have enough money to by a chromis viridis let alone a candy bassalet. i was considering one but the price is too much. i could buy a 180 reef-ready for that much!

You did ask about "SHOW" fish. Usually show fish cost a pretty penny. ;)
 
There are plenty of "show" fish for a tank that size in the $40-200 range. No need to go into four digits.

I have a 210, and I have several of what I consider "show" fish; emperor angel, blue face angel, Brazilian dragon moray. None cost over $200. To most people, even most people in these forums, a fish that costs hundreds or thousands of dollars is considered very expensive, and better be able to count as a show fish. Most of the very expensive fish are so costly because they are RARE, not because of their showiness.

And these are adults with jobs! :)
 
If you are going to have high flow for your SPS, seahorses would not be a great idea. They are also very vulnerable to stinging corals. Maybe not the best choice for this tank.

There are some small, reef safe hogfish that are very nice looking and colorful, and won't completely break the bank. For example:

Yellow candy hogfish
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+35+1157&pcatid=1157

You could have a mystery wrasse (probably either/or with the hogfish, not both) if you don't have shrimp, they are a bit pricier, but not crazy.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+1378+355&pcatid=355

Swiss guard basslet is a nice fish...
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+2124+1436&pcatid=1436

It's probably not your centerpiece fish, but orchid dottybacks are really nice fish, so are royal gramma. One of these would be a great addition.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+21+53&pcatid=53
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+38+1116&pcatid=1116

If you want a small group, bangai cardinals are very nice and not super big or pricey.

Good luck! Sounds like it will be a very nice set-up.

Good suggestions, but I would only keep either a single Banggai or a mated pair, no more. They turn on each other as they reach sexual maturity. Which is frustrating, because a shoal of them would be stunning.

Pajama cardinals are underrated because they're so common, but they're very colorful and hardy. You could have a few (maybe 3) in a tank that size.

The orchid dottybacks are also nice fish, as well as being gorgeous.
 
Thanks for the correction on the Bangais. I have seen them kept in 3s and 5s, but have not personally kept them, so I should not have assumed they would be okay in a group.
 
thanks for the imput fellow reefers. Lisa, thanks for the suggestions. so if i understand you right about the hogfish and wrasse, you would do the wrasse OR the hogifsh BUT not BOTH? im curious why? I like the idea of a wrasse in there so ill look around for options. even though the mystery wrasse is reletively cheap, its expensive for me. i think my parents are going to make me buy most of the corals, fish, supplies, etc with MY money so $80 is max i feel comfortable spending. i might go a little above tho. personally, i think the PJ cardinals looks ugly so those are out. my freind has had good luck with a trio of banggais for 6 months so ill talk to him and see how his are doing. I was considering a trio as well. do multiple gobies and/or blennies fare well together in smallish tanks? i guess the problem i have found (from research) is that most of the nano fish are gobys and blennies. i probably am wrong tho. thanks for the imput guys and gals, ill keep you update.
 
i forgot to mention. I have a six line wrasse and a royal gramma in my 75 so i would rather not have those fish in the 33. the tailspot blennie looks very interesting. ill consider it! any other "odd" fish people can think of?
 
Lisa, thanks for the suggestions. so if i understand you right about the hogfish and wrasse, you would do the wrasse OR the hogifsh BUT not BOTH? im curious why?

I would definitely do both if I thought they would get along. Don't know the answer. Someone with experience should advise you. Hogfish ARE wrasses, so it would be having a wrasse and a wrasse. :) I think hogfish would be okay with peaceful wrasses, but maybe not with something similar to a six line. There are some really nice smaller wrasses that would do well in your tank. have you considered some of the smaller and hardier/less expensive fairy/flasher wrasses? I don't have experience with these, but they are gorgeous. downside, they are jumpers. also, not sure if your tank is big enough, but at 48" long, I'd think it would be okay for a pair...

This wrasse has a reputation of non being wrasse-friendly, but how about a secretive wrasse as an alternative to the more expensive mystery wrasse?

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+1378+1152&pcatid=1152


I think you will be able to find some very nice options at reasonable prices. I'd go to sites with pretty reliable information on species, such as bluezoo and liveaquaria, and just browse in their online catalog to see what is out there and how the prices (in general) look. Then you can come back here with your list of fish you like to ask about hardiness and compatibility.

Some of my favorite fish for smaller tanks:

dwarf lionfish - can't get much more spectacular than that, and lots of personality, and inexpensive if you get a fuzzy dwarf. some keep them in reefs with good success, but bioload and getting the risk of the fish getting stung by coral may be an issue.

leaf fish scorpions - they can be hard to wean to frozen, may need live for good. but they are hardy, with cool behavior and can be kept as pairs or trios. they can't handle super high flow, and should not be with fish that will pick on them or outcompete them for food. they may not be ideal for your reef set-up.

orchid dottyback - mentioned before. they are hardy, pretty peaceful, have awesome color. won't break the bank.

dwarf angels - they might go after your corals, but an angel of any size is a centerpiece fish in the right setting. Flame angels are really beautiful, as are coral beauties (one of my favorites). for your tank, a pygmy (cherub) angel would look really nice. the Florida species is going to be around $30 or so.

Sailfin blenny - I had one for years, great fish. look at the starry blenny, which is related, and very striking.

Shrimp goby/shrimp combination - consider getting a goby (maybe a watchman) and pair it with a pistol shrimp, such as the tiger pistol shrimp. fascinatiing.

if you want to buy just one or a pair of very cool fish, consider an angler(s). Wartskin anglers are very expensive, but you could find a painted, sargassum or hispid angler closer to your price range and within your budget. you'd need to keep flow moderate at the bottom where the angler would live, but they can do pretty well in reefs.

Totally a non sequitur, but you are so lucky to be reefing at 14! I got started in the hobby around the same age you are - I'm 47 now, so I've been at it a long time. Hate to date myself, but my first tanks had slate bottoms, steel clad corners, air powered undergravel filters and dolomite substrate! No such thing (that I could get, anyway) as live rock in the 70s. The selection of fish was limited, and there were no mail order fish sellers. And the internet did not exist! I've been through all the technological advances, even got to test a lot of equipment in one of my jobs. :) This is a great time to be keeping reefs and fish. Enjoy!
 
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my freind has had good luck with a trio of banggais for 6 months so ill talk to him and see how his are doing. I was considering a trio as well.

palmer373, not to nag, but seriously, this is a bad idea. Mated pairs are expensive, so you may want to just keep one Banggai (and they're fine kept singly). But this is a scenario that ultimately will not work out. Two of the cardinals will eventually form a pair and kill the other one, even if it's second female. If there's more than one male, they'll fight to the death. This is reported time and again by not just aquarists, but also breeders, both commercial and private, who know these fish and their habits very well. Just because your friend's fish haven't turned on each other yet doesn't mean they won't at some point. It's just too risky, not mention expensive.

If you really have your heart set on a small group of cardinalfish, the threadfin cardinals are pretty (not colorful, but a nice silvery color and with gorgeous blue eyes) and will live peacefully in a shoal. The only problem is that they tend to have high mortality rates in shipping.

I apologize for lecturing, but I can tell that you care about your future tank inhabitants and I'd hate for you to lose any animals because of a mistake that could have been avoided. I want you to succeed and be happy with your first SW tank (and then you'll become an addict like the rest of us ;) ) LisaD has some great suggestions that I'd take a look at. Good luck!
 
How about a midas blenny or a blue spot jawfish? Both of them have great "people watcher" personalities and are easy to keep. The jawfish require a deeper sand bed, and you'll need a jumper-proof lid for either one.

I'm tempted to say that the jawfish is probably compatible with seahorses and pipefish since they rarely wander far from their burrows.
 
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