Show Your Skills on ID

[coralite]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13745186#post13745186 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JHemdal
- I think we should go back to full-frame shots AND you have to give a paragraph of what you think the fish's husbandry requirements would be.

J

I'm sorry what would be the point of that? You want full frame shots just go browse google images or Fishbase.

You all are close enough I will post the entire fish see if you can figure it out.

 

[JHemdal]

No - I propose you have to give HUSBANDRY info along with your guess - so page turning on Fishbase wouldn't help you.

How could the fish be a resplendant - fisher hybrid, aren't they from two different oceans? If its a hybrid, then I quit...lunch time is over anyway!

J

 

[coralite]

We could add location info or maybe some ecological clues, I'm down with that. The resplendens x fisheri was produced by Frank Baensch of Reef Culture Tech. This fish is a natural cross of Acanthops and Flavicauda from the Maldives. Go ahead jay, you got the closest.

 

[SDguy]

Hmmm, shouldn't the photo piece be of an umistakable portion of the fish?

 

[JHemdal]

Well, I give up - I've seen acanthops that were that orange, but they also have more orange on their dorsal. The blue is like that of an interuptus - but how would THOSE two fish meet excpet in a petri dish?

J

 

[JHemdal]

O.K., Here is the next one. A whole body shot just like I proposed, but hey - I never said what AGE the fish had to be! This on is 12.5 days post-hatch. I did take the shot myself though:

Hint: it is marine, but not tropical-reef related.


Jay

 

[SDguy]

Not that I'll be able to ID it anyways, but since you did take it yourself, any chance of a larger pic?

 

[IanMNY]

You serious Jay? I know larval fish and I know that ontologically a good deal of fish at 12 DPH look nothing like their adult form. Also that pic is so tiny clues about the fishes biology are usually seen in minute details of subadult fish. That said my guess is Congrogadus subducens but really without a microscope and a book of ontology i have no idea

Just so we are clear my guess =

Congrogadus subducens

aka Carpet eel blenny

 

[JHemdal]

Sorry about the file size on the previous image - uploading here is a bit tricky. Trust me though, even if you had the original 2 mb image you wouldn't be able to ID this because nobody has recorded the larval stage before. The first post was a bit of a joke. However, here is a shot of both proud parents:

Now - if you guess this you have to accompany your answer with directions on how the heck I can get these past day 20(grin).

Jay

 

[copps]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13745256#post13745256 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JHemdal
Well, I give up - I've seen acanthops that were that orange, but they also have more orange on their dorsal. The blue is like that of an interuptus - but how would THOSE two fish meet excpet in a petri dish?

J

Hey Jay, the Maldives are at the geographic border of both C. flavicauda and C. acanthops. The fish that Jake showed is one specimen of a self-sustaining population of fish with that intermediate color form between the two "species"... they are not hybrids in the sense that they come from a parent of each species... but rather have genetic input from both species...

 

[IanMNY]

boarfish? capros aper

 

[jmaneyapanda]

I am enjoying the pics in this thread, and LOVE the fact that every is using the taxonomic names, rather than the BS common names, but this seems to have turned into a rare fish pic thread. How the heck am I supposed to recognize a fish that is from a variable mix pool of fish that were once hybrids? Again, rather than a test your skills at IDing thread, this has turned into a "who can research on the web quickest thread". Love the pics, though.

 

[JHemdal]

IanMNY,

Yep - you got it. But NOW you have to tell me how to raise the little buggers....just kidding, I'm confident we'll work it out soon.


Jay

 

[michael_cb_125]

 

[michael_cb_125]

Some of my favorite fish are also some of the smallest

 

[copps]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13746294#post13746294 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmaneyapanda
I am enjoying the pics in this thread, and LOVE the fact that every is using the taxonomic names, rather than the BS common names, but this seems to have turned into a rare fish pic thread. How the heck am I supposed to recognize a fish that is from a variable mix pool of fish that were once hybrids? Again, rather than a test your skills at IDing thread, this has turned into a "who can research on the web quickest thread". Love the pics, though.

Jeremy, I've talked about this population in my angelfish talk where I show photos of the resplendens/fisheri pair I got from Frank at RCT, which ties into the reasoning he spawned them... this was not quick web research (you of all people should know this... I spoke for your Atlanta club and you drove me around! )... and showing oddball fish and only portions of fish makes it a challenge and we learn... I think we all could identify full shots of common reef fish in the industry and that would not make for such an interesting thread as this one has been... There are plenty of fish in this thread that ALL of us probably never knew... but each person has there area of expertise and we learn from them...

 

[IanMNY]

alright I'm going to guess on these but its totally my turn! the first is Tryasssogobius colini i believe the second is definitly Bryaninops natans

 

[jmaneyapanda]

John:

I am not saying I am not enjoying this thread, the pics, or the information learned from it. I just feel it has lost its original intent, as the obscure fish listed now are typically not in most (even advanced) aquarists knowledge base, but instead is now researched.

Nonetheless, I realize Im just being a stick in the mud, so I will stop ruining the threads. Thansk and good luck to all.

 

[jmaneyapanda]

BTW, it was the C. flavicauda and C. acanthops mix I was speaking of, not the C. resplendens and C. fisheri mix I was speaking of. No worries though, sorry to all again.

 

[IanMNY]

I completely agree jmaneyapanda. You won't see me posting any picture of some obscure hybrid.... maybe an obscure fish, but they won't be a random combination of two random fish. Anyway the first fish is the one you need to ID to get to post a new pic

This second fish I cannot ID myself so technically I can't ask others to ID it and then judge whether they are right or wrong. If you can ID this fish please do but for lack of confusion don't post a new pic if you do