Skimmer Q&A Thread

It's cool. I don't mind the filter sock. I do want to get a better skimmer though. Would like more opinions on that. ATB 1050 w/ airstar vs the alpha 250. I think I'm just stuck on the build quality of the alpha after seeing my friends.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15259674#post15259674 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 143gadgets
Thats wetter than I usually run it. I had just done a water change before that vid and the skimmer bumped up a bit higher than normal. I do like to run it wetter than most. I using Hikari not PE. :)

SJM - What were your thoughts on the alpha? Do u still have yours?
That 2nd video looks much better. No, I dont have the Alpha any longer. I was not happy with it.
 
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Well scott and I both had the alpha 250 and sent it back. I think all you would be gaining is build quality. And if you bought one I would get 200 over the 250. I would glue the output T in place so you know where your wedge pipe is at as well. good luck with your purchase. If you want one that skims like a beast and is built like one get the super marine 200 or 250. or maybe eve the bk mini gen 2 200. THe ATB 1050A is great too.
Did you read where a replacement pump is $650 for the alpha, $450 for owners of an alpha. eeks. thats alot for a pump.
 
Thanks Mojo. I guess I'm gonna look more into the new ATBs. Does anyone know how the build quality compares to the BK? They look really nice in the pics.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15260154#post15260154 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Tschupe
Can anyone explain "wet skimming" as opposed to regular skimming ? THanks

Tschupe-

You would have better luck getting an answer from this Q&A thread if you added "ATB", "WM" or "BK" to your questions. ;)

j/k

Seriously, my understanding of "Wet" and "Dry" skimming is as follows. Please correct me if necessary:

Wet skimming involves running your water level higher in your skimmer, thus obtaining a less concentrated "watery" skimmate. The foam head at the top of the neck appears wetter.

With dry skimming you run your water level lower, thus obtaining more concentrated (darker) skimmate. The foam head has a drier appearance, more like cappuccino foam with a lot of suspended crap.

Wet skimming is more aggressive, making sure that more organics and particulates get collected (along with more water). The collection cup fills up faster. One disadvantage to this method is that you have to watch your tank's salinity more carefully since more saltwater is removed when the collection cup is cleaned. I've seen one poster claim that they perform their water changes by extremely wet skimming, under the theory that the most organically laden water will be extracted through the skimmer.

Dry skimming fills up the cup slower, so it does not have to be emptied as often due to overfilling. I have read from one (long lost) source that dry skimming may allow more organics and particulates to build up on the inside of the neck and/or fall back into the reaction chamber. They claimed that dry skimming is claimed to be less effective at removing organics even though it is considered a benchmark of a good skimmer. Not sure if this is true or not.

Dry skimming may not be possible on tanks where the organic level is not high enough to allow a sustainable dry foam head. This is why nano tanks are most often unable to obtain dark, dry skim.

Lastly, please note that even a wetter skim will darken in a skimmer cup as it decomposes. If someone shows a picture of 7 days worth of skimmate, part of that dark color is due to rot. If someone shows you 2-3 days worth of dark skim, the color is a more accurate depiction of the skimmer's ability to skim dry. Also, collection cups that use darker colored acrylic tend to make the skimmate appear darker, and flash photography can also enhance the apparent color of skim. In other words, what you see is not always a good indicator.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15264749#post15264749 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 143gadgets
pics...? :D

pics sorry had to work late.

P1000720.jpg
 
Hey guys I have a question about that octopus skimmers and I don't know where to look so I thought I'd pose it here. What are the differences between the octo skimmer models NWB DNWB and Extreme?
 
Well the nwb are internal only. Actually not bad skimmers for the money. The Dnwb are recirculating skimmers and can be run internal or external. And the extreme skimmers use a different pump. A sicce psk 2500 pump, and a little bit different design.
I hope that helps.

Mojo~
 
That helps alot actually mojo. One more question........ I'm looking into getting an octopus and I want to run it in skimmer so the Dnwb isn't really that necessary. That would leave me between the nwb and extreme. I pretty much can only afford the nwb right now. Is the pump on the extreme so great that it blows the nwb out of the water and I should just save my money for the extreme. Or is the nwb just as good? I guess that was several questions
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15265434#post15265434 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 143gadgets
NICE! Thanks for the pics. So what are you thoughts on build quality? Equal to the alpha? Better?
 
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