Skimmer Q&A Thread

skimmate looks tremendous.. any change you can post a close up of the skimmer running with a clean cup and where the water/bubble level is set?

Here is another pic of my SSA CS1 skimmate from this week. 7 days worth, this is darker than what I got last week - it's almost black and definitely smells worse. Slightly less volume than last week. Anyway, this was in 10.25" of sump water with the wedge pipe set to "4"
 

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skimmate looks tremendous.. any change you can post a close up of the skimmer running with a clean cup and where the water/bubble level is set?

Here is the SSA CS1 right after I cleaned the cup. Water level is slightly below the top of the skimmer body, I'd say about 1.5" below. Again, this is with the wedge pipe set to '4' and 10.25" of sump depth.

Second pic is 10 minutes or so after I cleaned it. Hopefully, you can see the bubble column and where the bubbles are breaking, about 1.5-2" below the top of the cup. I'm still playing around with this skimmer and might try running it with less air, wedge pipe around "3" to see if the skimmate changes volume/color/smell.

Will post more pics in about a week with the wedge set to "3" for comparison.
 

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You know what's tuff about many of these threads? Trying to put a model # with a brand name. Page after page of recommendations but unless you know the brand name, it's hard to find them to purchase. I am trying to change from a 65 gal tank with a HOB skimmer to a drilled 40 gal breeder with a 20 gal long sump. I plan on various sps/lps corals and a moderate fish load. So for the first time ever, I'm spending days trying to define "todays" wise choices for pumps, sumps, skimmers etc.

It sounds like sump water depth and flow rate can make/break a skimmers performance. So number one thing I need to define (after tank size) is the sump style and water depth? I plan on using a Ehnhien 1250 return pump. Smarter to submerge a skimmer, or keep it outside the sump? Maybe neither? Better to make the sump as big as possible and therefore it becomes a higher priority and dictates the skimmer's placement? No room left for skimmer's footprint on smaller cabinets?
It seemed like a couple years ago everyone was talking about the DAS skimmers. Now...not so much. Is this as much fashion as anything else? After all this time, no one design has nailed performance?

200 hundred pages of people spending time trying to honestly help. I'm trying to grasp it all, define the priorites, choose something of good value and good performance on something close to a nano with a 36x18 footprint defining my sump size. Any couple of clear choices?
 
Mojo - i've narrowed down my options to the RO XS160 and the CS7. I'll be running an 85g mixed reef (maybe 60% sps eventually) with a 20g sump. I've read a ton throughout this thread, but really have 2 major items to determine before I make this purchase.

1. Which of the two is quieter? Is it a noticeable difference between the two?
2. Which has less of a maintenance/adjustment requirement to run smoothly?

It is more/less an $80 difference at this point between the two. Any guidance from anyone else with experience would also be appreciated. Thanks!
 
You know what's tuff about many of these threads? Trying to put a model # with a brand name. Page after page of recommendations but unless you know the brand name, it's hard to find them to purchase. I am trying to change from a 65 gal tank with a HOB skimmer to a drilled 40 gal breeder with a 20 gal long sump. I plan on various sps/lps corals and a moderate fish load. So for the first time ever, I'm spending days trying to define "todays" wise choices for pumps, sumps, skimmers etc.

It sounds like sump water depth and flow rate can make/break a skimmers performance. So number one thing I need to define (after tank size) is the sump style and water depth? I plan on using a Ehnhien 1250 return pump. Smarter to submerge a skimmer, or keep it outside the sump? Maybe neither? Better to make the sump as big as possible and therefore it becomes a higher priority and dictates the skimmer's placement? No room left for skimmer's footprint on smaller cabinets?
It seemed like a couple years ago everyone was talking about the DAS skimmers. Now...not so much. Is this as much fashion as anything else? After all this time, no one design has nailed performance?

200 hundred pages of people spending time trying to honestly help. I'm trying to grasp it all, define the priorites, choose something of good value and good performance on something close to a nano with a 36x18 footprint defining my sump size. Any couple of clear choices?
vertex in100 or seaside aquatics cs 5.5 would be two great choices. the vertex sits in seven inches sump depth the cs 5.5 more like nine to ten and a half. both will fit in your sump fine. No no one design has nailed performance as x cone is not necessarily better than y cylinder skimmer.
 
Mojo - i've narrowed down my options to the RO XS160 and the CS7. I'll be running an 85g mixed reef (maybe 60% sps eventually) with a 20g sump. I've read a ton throughout this thread, but really have 2 major items to determine before I make this purchase.

1. Which of the two is quieter? Is it a noticeable difference between the two?
2. Which has less of a maintenance/adjustment requirement to run smoothly?

It is more/less an $80 difference at this point between the two. Any guidance from anyone else with experience would also be appreciated. Thanks!

the cs has a better designed output so it will not splash water like the reef octo will. you can get a plumbing kit for the octo to solve this or piece one together at a home improvement store.
 
Setting up a new 90g+30g sump mixed reef. The sump section for the skimmer is about 11.5 x 9 internal dimensions. Any suggestions appreciated.
why so little sump space? my suggestion is a sump with more room for a skimmer if possible. what would fit is something like a reef octo diablo xs160. better might be a reef octo sro 2000 but I think you dont have enough room for one.
 
If you have room for 36x18 footprint, you could make a sump out of a 40 gal breeder tank that would perfect for your 90 gal

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MOJO what do you think about the specs of the new Vertex Omega 150? I am in the skimmer market for my new 120 and am having a tuff time deciding on the upcoming Omega 150 and the ATB 840 v2 ???
Some of the specs………

Omega 150 (6" Body) Up to 150g - $349.99
Power Consumption: 19w
Air Draw: 850lph
Footprint: 11" x 11" (could go slightly smaller if needed)
Height: 21.75"

vs.

ATB 840 v2 - $650.00
8″diameter cone with a 3.75″ neck
Footprint 10.5L x14W x20H
21 watts total power consumption
Single Sicce syncra pump
Air Draw ~ 700 to 800l/hr
Rated for tanks up to 249 gallons
 
Question for all you skimmer nerds..ahem...I mean skimmer gurus...

I was just wondering why skimmers have different water depths preferences?
Why is that? Why do some need to be at let's say 6" depth while others 9-11" water depth?
Always wondered the reasoning behind that. I know that the recommended depth is what will make the skimmer perform at its best but what is the "science" behind it?
 
Iam on the fence between these two skimmers.

1.Seaside Aquatics CS 3.5

2.Bubble Magus NAC 3.5

It will be going on my soon to be seahorse tank 34gal solana with a 10 gal sump Was leaning towards the seaside aquatics because of the Sicce SK 200 Pump
Any suggestions..
 
Question for all you skimmer nerds..ahem...I mean skimmer gurus...

I was just wondering why skimmers have different water depths preferences?
Why is that? Why do some need to be at let's say 6" depth while others 9-11" water depth?
Always wondered the reasoning behind that. I know that the recommended depth is what will make the skimmer perform at its best but what is the "science" behind it?

it depends on skimmer body size to pump size for some. One big reason for a lot of skimmers needing deep water will be the bubble plate and how restrictive it is. It all boils down to back pressure on the pump be it a restrictive plate putting pressure back onto the pump or small pump or large one for the body. better skimmers with non restrictive bubble plates tend to function in a normal 6 to 8 inch depth. Same for skimmers without bubble plates and a balanced pump size(like a euro reef/reef dynamics skimmer). If one owns a deep water depth skimmer with a removable bubble plate...you could actually take it out and turn on the pump and see just how much back pressure it is causing. A lot of bubble plates are actually very poorly made and could use more or larger holes to be less restrictive as well as provide less turbulence in the body.
 
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Iam on the fence between these two skimmers.

1.Seaside Aquatics CS 3.5

2.Bubble Magus NAC 3.5

It will be going on my soon to be seahorse tank 34gal solana with a 10 gal sump Was leaning towards the seaside aquatics because of the Sicce SK 200 Pump
Any suggestions..

seaside aquatics is the bubble magus US distributor... they are actually the same skimmer body... For sure choose the skimmer with the better sicce pump..thus... seaside aquatics.
 
MOJO what do you think about the specs of the new Vertex Omega 150? I am in the skimmer market for my new 120 and am having a tuff time deciding on the upcoming Omega 150 and the ATB 840 v2 ???
Some of the specs………

Omega 150 (6" Body) Up to 150g - $349.99
Power Consumption: 19w
Air Draw: 850lph
Footprint: 11" x 11" (could go slightly smaller if needed)
Height: 21.75"

vs.

ATB 840 v2 - $650.00
8″diameter cone with a 3.75″ neck
Footprint 10.5L x14W x20H
21 watts total power consumption
Single Sicce syncra pump
Air Draw ~ 700 to 800l/hr
Rated for tanks up to 249 gallons

the Omega is really nice and the price is right. ATB makes the best cones and also use sicce pumps. Either one will be a great choice. I would lean towards the Omega due to cost, vertex quality to price, and I think it will do as good of a job, but, hard to not trust the track record from ATB.
 
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seaside aquatics is the bubble magus US distributor... they are actually the same skimmer body... For sure choose the skimmer with the better sicce pump..thus... seaside aquatics.

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. It's really helpful!
 
thoughts

thoughts

Was looking at this skimmer because of the small footprint i will be useing on a 34gal with a 10gal sump.
http://www.cadlights.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=48&products_id=235

I saw the other versions of their skimmers at a reef show and they seem really nice and they are quite. I think that skimmer would be great on a sub 50 gallon tank, my only concern about their skimmer line is that they use their own pump which means its them or nothing.
 
cant choose between the RLSS "reef life support systems" R8-E or the elegance 200

anyone have thoughts or knowlege of these 2 skimmers?
will b ran on 150g
 
Hello MoJo,

I have spend part of 2 days looking at this thread for my question and have not found it.

Simple one.
I have a 75 G w/40g sump...less usual rock and such. No corals yet , just 2 clowns , cleaner crew, sifter, urchin, star and one long tent. small anem.
I plan to have one more tang and then the rest corals. Tank is 8 months and I have been using a cheap coral life skimmer that has an air line pump. UHG, I have been putting this purchase off patiently knowing that I did not need to make a rash decision.

I have wanted to buy a SRO XL1000sss and am about to buy one any day but wanted to ask here if I will be ok or should I step it up a little.

Thank you for your time.
 
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